Just because women have been doing this to men for all these years, two wrongs don't make a right. PUA's are using techniques to lie and pat themselves on the back for it. NLP and hypnosis is seen by many as borderline rape. You're essentially taking away their free will. Understand women yes...work with them yes but don't manipulate them.

Why is it that it's frowned upon when a man wants to pay for a drink or dinner? I'm called a chump?


DL (My friend is asking these questions not me)

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"There are two lessons you MUST learn in life my son...always watch where you sign your name...and always watch where you put your dick!"

Yiannis Pantis (Kolonia)

existence and survival is based on manipulation of one's environment.

one could even argue that manipulation at it's core is very natural.

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what dr. house brings to medicine, i bring to everyday life (an extreme dose of cynicism), don't listen to the curmudgeon!

the answer isn't yes or no, why ask a trick question?
Also realize a wrong and a right dont make a right.
Obviously your not dealing with normal or good players if they're callin you a chump, I wouldn't put someone down for buyin someone a drink, heck I encourage people to buy me drinks

Paying for a meal or a date can be a very nice, gentlemanly thing to do, if used only once in a while. But if you're doing that all the time... Let's look at it logically:

She is a human being who needs to eat. So are you. You both (presumably) make money, and you two are on a date, so she should expect to have some money with her if she wants to eat something, and stay alive. She agreed to be on this date with you, just as you agreed to be on this date with her, so the score is 50/50. If she is expecting you to pay for her dinner, it means she thinks she is so valuable that she is actually 75/25 of the two of you (she thinks she's better than you, and deserves the world). Otherwise, she would pay for the dinner herself, since she is the one that is going to be eating/enjoying it.

Any woman expecting that is either living in a fantasy world, in which case you can help her by not paying for her stuff and spoiling her, or else she is just trying to gold dig. Why do you want to be near a woman who's like that?

And why would you be paying for her dinner anyways? So that they like you more, because you have money? That seems to me to be more like the "manipulation" you're talking about than some silly NLP stuff. And more, it's manipulation that only hurts you, because it's YOUR hard-earned money!