Stop trying to separate direct and indirect game. Indirect game doesn't exist. It's what pussies do who are afraid of rejection, period. It's a waste of time. The only reason people made a separate branch and called it "indirect game" is because they've had some success from it. But that success is after meeting 100 women and getting 2 numbers. Those women could of also been in a horny mood right off the bat.

The true definition of indirect game is to show interest in a girl without getting rejected. It's all an ego thing, it's got nothing to do with actually picking up a woman. Even if you saved your own ego by not getting rejected, that girl still could of rejected you if you were direct either way and on top of that you wasted more time trying to find out if she's interested in you.

Be direct. The fantasy behind being direct is that the girl's rejection matters.

REJECTION AIN'T SHIT.

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I disagree.

although i see direct as the absolute way to go, there are times where it is not fitted and dangerous. But the concept of indirect game is largely misunderstood i think. More on this this evening, need to go off to work now.

cheers

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I know I'm selfish, I'm unkind.
Sucker love I always find,
Someone to bruise and leave behind.
placebo - every me, every you

I always thought of indirect game as just delayed direct game. It's just slower.

BUT most men use this as an excuse, a justification, to cover up their fear of making a move. They say "oh no its cool, im not making a move cause its indirect game."

Yea you have to go direct eventually (well usually anyway) so I agree with this statement.

Indirect: Opening with comfort or a neg
Direct: Opening with sexual escalation

Big difference

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+1

sometimes being indirect is required due to logistics and situation, you will not have much luck, pulling a girl being absolutely direct in front of a crowd of people, even if she likes you, she will have alot of social pressure and tension on her, that will more then likely force her to reject you, but also depends on how tasteful your direct approach was, either way,

some girls prefer the indirect approach to save them face, other girls much prefer it that you are direct from the start, rationalization being that you liked them enough to just be honest from the very beginning and confident enough to reveal intentions,



in the end it is not about rejection, rejection is a reality from both sides of the fence the blow of it however is just softened by being indirect, properly pulled off indirect game ends up LJBF, properly pulled off direct game gets real blow outs, direct gets you faster results and weeds out time wasters, indirect gets you a whole bunch of leads that go no where and leave you running around in circles,

it really depends on your motives and goals,

NO MATTER WHAT INTEREST MUST BE SHOWN
indirect = after her
direct = before her

I completely misunderstood the meanings of those terms in the community. I thought direct was more about showing interest with no bullshit gaming. e.g. "I like you", "what would it take you to get you too meet up with me", you know, cutting the bullshit hint message gaming, regardless of who showed interest first. indirect appraoch being escalation, isolation, more flirtation...

I've seen people become successful with clearly showing their intentions clear as the sun to women, it doesn't take them long to get the girl to bed, they're not necessarily good looking but ofcourse are attractive.

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Indeed, now that is very true, at some point, no matter what you do, you need to show interest.

While direct is walking up to somebody and just spit out what is on your mind, indirect is all about the mind. It is conveying what you want in an indirect way, because you cannot do it directly because of some obstacle, for example a social barrier, cultural barrier or the office where you work. Indirect works because of the barrier, because a taboo, because of the thrill it should give somebody.

Its kinda weird to describe. Ask anybody if they know indirect game, and they will say yes. But then to define it...

cheers

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"Stop being a fucking vagina and escalate" - CaptainJackHarkness

Like the naked leads the blind.
I know I'm selfish, I'm unkind.
Sucker love I always find,
Someone to bruise and leave behind.
placebo - every me, every you