I went clubing very recently. Prepared openers dhvs and everything. When i got to the club it was a whole different scenery than i imagined. It was really loud and anything i said was barely audible. The only other way to communicate with a girl was dancing, which i found i was terrible at. And meeting strangers on the dance floor proved to be difficult. Some girls rejected me even before begining, others danced with me and gave me strong iois but left when i failed to kino escalate. Im currently working on the second problem by learning dance moves but what can i do about the first problem, convincing total strangers to dance with u without talking?

I'm not a pro player, since I'm quite new into the game. But I've been clubing a hell lot all over Europe, so what I can share is what worked with me in very loud clubs:

- Eye contact: Try to make eye contact with a target. When a girl look at you, look back at her, don't avoid her eyes. If you can lock in a girl's eyes, that's already 1 IOI.
After that, you can try whatever technique from the smooth approach to the "come here" technique.

- The dancer: Well, this one obviously needs good dancing skills. By showing great dancing skills, it's a sort of DHV. Many times I've been picking up girls without talking at all, just by dancing. But again, you'd better know what you're doing. And I think it's pretty worth the time & money to learn how to move your ass decently on the dancefloor.

- The bar: When you spot a target on the dancefloor, you can just wait for her to go to the bar, and go to it right after her. Then try to get spot right next to her and act like you're about to order a drink (or actually do it ^^). While waiting (cuz in clubs you usually wait a hell lot for the bar tender), try any opener with the target. It may work in some clubs, as normally, the bar isn't right in the dancefloor, so it may be a little less loudy.

ok these were my 2cts for now ^^
Hope you'll get some other tips to put into practice, and let us know how it goes

Cheers mate,
Jon, aka Logycs

Thanks logycs for those tips, i'll definitely try them. But one more thing, i'm taller than most girls, 6'3'', and i had to lean in whenever i wanted to whisper something, whether it be a neg or a qualifier, to a girl. Does that gesture lower my value in anyway? Thanks again

Bro I'm as tall as you. 6.4 exactly. And I think i to be a HUUUGE advantage.

First: you're tall - that's typicall of a natural "alpha". Makes you king of the crowd. Easier to spot. The game is about building attention. What better way to build attention than being the one that people spot immediately when looking all over the place ? Though, to work requires you to have great self confidence and, if possible, a nice smile '^^'

Second: That will ease your "lean back and forth" game. Do you remind the rule "act like you were leaving at any moment" ? Being tall makes it easier for us, especially in clubs. You can lean back and forth to her, you can watch over her head like something else caught your attention. That works everytime for me. She'll feel like she has to put double effort to get your attention.

Third: Have you never heard a girl say "I can't make out with a boy smaller than me" ? Guess what ? None of them is taller than we are. Period.

Play your game, don't be affraid of taking advantage from your stature, and always act like you're about to leave. Keep up the good work bro

Cheers,
Jon, aka Logycs

Many thanks jon. I'll try to work on those issues and let u know how it goes. Take care.