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I met a girl at a club for a first date, but she got drunk and started dancing with another guy, who she eventually went home with. How can I prevent this from happening?

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I met a cute girl and got her number. We exchanged a few texts to try to meet, she cancelled a few times saying something came up, and I was out of town for a few days, so it was hard to set up a meeting. So eventually after 2 weeks of this she texts me and tells me what club she'll be at tonight and I should come meet her there.

I knew it was a bad idea to meet her on her turf, but I honestly didn't expect there to be another chance for us to meet, so I went with it.

It started out well: We had a great conversation, she introduced me to her friends, she was giving me IOI's like there was no tomorrow, so I kissed her, and started dancing with her. She was grinding on me, we were kissing, it was going well.

Then I tried to kiss her again, and she said she's shy and this is just our first date. So I figured hey, she likes me, I'll give her some room. I leave her for a bit, and then come and dance with her some more. She tells me she'll be right back.

So I go talk to her friend for a bit, and come back to find her dancing with another guy. He was grinding on her, had his leg between hers, touching her all over, dry humping, etc. I went over and tried to AMOG the guy, it didn't go down very well. I tried to talk to the girl, but she said it was a friend of hers from school.

I figure there's nothing else I can do there but stand there and look awkward, so I sit down and talk to her friends some more. A few minutes later my date comes back and says "this is my friend from school, my mother just called me, he's going to give me a ride home.. but call me!" and left with him. Wow. Shy my ass.

Anyway, 2 questions:
1. How do I prevent this from happening in the future? How do I keep a girl from running off and hooking up with someone else without following her around?
2. Yeah she's a slut but I still want to fuck her. What can I do from here? Call her out on sleeping with the guy? Ignore her? Tell her it's OK, I fucked another girl too?

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1st of all when she said shes shy u should ave showed her disinterest for a few seconds till she gets the mssg then act indifferent
2nd to prevent this from happening have a stronger frame and dont feel bad about a slut cuz bitches they come they go
3rd the way u escelated things was wrong obviously so while kissing grinding or whatever u should tease her ( have breaks turn away ..etc) that will make her teased and wants more no matter how shy bitch is
4th go talk to her and act tottaly indifferent take her some club get her a bit drunk shel get over the shyness then excelate properly - isolate her - dont make things logicalmake them emotional then have agood excuse to get her home

youll thank me later when u fuck the daylight outta her

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To answer your first question.... NEVER NEVER NEVER take a date to a club or any bar where people go to hook up! It's like dangling a piece of meat over the lion's cage! You were just begging for other guys to challenge you ...and you lost. Don't put yourself in that situation to begin with.

As for the second question, if you still want to fuck her, call her up and take her to some little bar where you'll have her full attention. The last thing you want on a date is competition. Forget about what happened with her "friend" that night, that's none of your business. At most, maybe give her a playful jab about ditching you so she'll feel a little guilty and want to make it up to you. Otherwise play dumb, making her feel like a slut is a bad move.

If she really is a slut...er, sexually liberated young woman, you should have no problems from here.


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To answer your first question.... NEVER NEVER NEVER take a date to a club or any bar where people go to hook up! It's like dangling a piece of meat over the lion's cage! You were just begging for other guys to challenge you ...and you lost. Don't put yourself in that situation to begin with.
Fair enough, but like I said, I didn't take her there.. This was after 4-5 attempts to meet, and it was looking like it was either this date or no date.

Also, suppose you meet a girl in a club and you're getting along. At that point, it's the exact same situation: You need to hold her attention so that she doesn't run off with another guy.

The problem is, from what I'd read about dealing with other males that try to talk to your girl was that you should give them some space. The argument was that it shows you're confident and aren't threatened by the guy, which shows your authority and gives the girl time to blow him off. But this bitch, I gave her some space with the guy and she fucked him. So, bad advice. I'm trying to find the good advice!

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Here are the couple things that I think went wrong:

1. You shouldn't have accept her invite like that, you gave her all the power.
2. You jumped the loop when she said she's shy and stop escalating, she started to lose interest and didn't see you as a sexual threat anymore. Her attention shifted to another guy.
3. You tried to AMOG the guy and failed, at this point it was game over. If it was me, I wouldn't bother to AMOG, but instead go game other hot girls in the club.
4. Like you said, you were both busy so it's hard to set up a date, should have kept it that way instead of give in and come to her club. You could have said "Great, I'll be at {different club/bar near by} with my friends, you should stop by". Make her come to you instead.
5. Her bullshit excuse at the end, when she said "call me", I would just say "Maybe" and smirk.

---> How to fix it ? Lets face it, you were at loss. Stop feeding her attentions, don't even mention hanging out, start treating her like your guy buddy. If by any chance, she invites you to go out again, gladly accept it and start using her as your pivot to game other girls. At one point, she will get jealous and want your validation again.
Just get the idea of "sleeping with her" our of your head, remember "the one who cares less is always the one with more power"


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Also, suppose you meet a girl in a club and you're getting along. At that point, it's the exact same situation: You need to hold her attention so that she doesn't run off with another guy.

The problem is, from what I'd read about dealing with other males that try to talk to your girl was that you should give them some space. The argument was that it shows you're confident and aren't threatened by the guy, which shows your authority and gives the girl time to blow him off. But this bitch, I gave her some space with the guy and she fucked him. So, bad advice. I'm trying to find the good advice!
The short (and not terribly helpful answer) is be more sexually interesting to her than anyone else in the room. You were that guy when you were dancing and making out with her, but it obviously wore off.

Another way is to already have fucked the girl before. Her friend pulled this one off perfectly. My guess is that she was feeling horny that night and he was a better option than you because 1. she knew him already and 2. he'd already nailed him before. Sorry new guy, you lose this round.

I don't think you did anything particularly wrong except put yourself in that difficult situation to begin with. If that guy didn't show up things might have turned out in your favor.

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well, usually you have two choices in that situation to regain her attention, one is lead the guy (amog) or pawn a better looking girl (she will regain attention if she sees you gaming another girl but the girl has to be equal or better looking then her and she has to be enjoying it),

next for your amog senario, while the guy has the girl he is in a more advantagous position and to gain value all he has to do is ignore you, you are qualifying to him by trying to gain his attention, you need to either wait for a better time to strike or pawn another girl (in the way you listed your senario gaming other girls probably a better idea) also when amoging, just think of questions and commands as hoops, don't jump through any of them, don't give him the answers to his questions he is seeking and don't do anything he tells you to do, just constantly, throw hoops out for him and validate him for trying to get your attention but never buy into his active frame


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To answer your first question.... NEVER NEVER NEVER take a date to a club or any bar where people go to hook up! It's like dangling a piece of meat over the lion's cage!
Can't agree more. The exact same thing happened to me when I was an AFC. Met a HB7 and got a weakish number close but amazingly it turned into a day 2. Anyway we ended up a a club and about an hour in she was targeted by some guy while I was buying drinks, came back and they were exchanging numbers with big grins on their faces. I can't remember what she said but she hinted pretty strongly that it was all over for me.

I text her the next day saying that I thought what she did was poor form but she seemed to think she did nothing wrong, she even admitted that the guy F-closed her. I freezed her out for a week and tried to set up another meeting but with no luck.

Yea never take a date to a club!!! I only ever take girls to clubs if I've already F-closed them.

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next for your amog senario, while the guy has the girl he is in a more advantagous position and to gain value all he has to do is ignore you, you are qualifying to him by trying to gain his attention, you need to either wait for a better time to strike or pawn another girl (in the way you listed your senario gaming other girls probably a better idea) also when amoging, just think of questions and commands as hoops, don't jump through any of them, don't give him the answers to his questions he is seeking and don't do anything he tells you to do, just constantly, throw hoops out for him and validate him for trying to get your attention but never buy into his active frame
That's the problem, they were all over each other, there wasn't anything I could do to separate them. I tried dancing with another girl in front of her, but she wasn't even looking. At one point the guy got a bit too pushy and tried to put his hand on her crotch and she started pushing him away, so I tried to take the opportunity to "rescue her" and push the guy away. But then the guy got all angry and started to yell, and the girl said it's her friend it's OK, so that didn't work.

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I met a girl at a club for a first date, but she got drunk and started dancing with another guy, who she eventually went home with. How can I prevent this from happening?
First of all you kinda fucked it up when you had a date with her in a club, imo you gto to a club to meet chicks, not to maintain a relationship with them, that's like you would be bringing sand to the beach.

And secondly, she gave you a shit test when she went dancing with that other guy and she knows that, she wanted to see if you'll gonna step up for her. So do it, if that girl really means that much to you, tell in a guy's face: "Dude that's my girl, I came over with her and I'm the one taking her home." and then grab her by the hand and pull her away, cause here's the thing:

You know that this is what you should have done, she knows, that you know that you should have done this and she expects you to do so (by that you show, that you take care of your things that you like). And that guy who she was dancing with expects from you to pussy out and leave her with you, he's not going to fight you over some stranger girl he met 3 min ago, while he has the club full of other chicks. So if we cut the BS, this is where it gets.

Or if you don't like the girl that much, you can just leave her with a guy, either way it's your choice

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"Dude that's my girl, I came over with her and I'm the one taking her home."
I told him that, and he asked her: is this your boyfriend? She said no and continued dancing with him.

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"Dude that's my girl, I came over with her and I'm the one taking her home."
I told him that, and he asked her: is this your boyfriend? She said no and continued dancing with him.
so you put it all on the line, told him that was your girl, she tools you, and you still actively tried to regain her affection, NEVER EVER EVER.... EVER do this again, if a girl tools you this bad, you should take the higher path, instead of trying to regain her, you should have just said, WOW, YOUR UNBELIEVABLE HAVE A GREAT NIGHT, then game girls outside of her view, and if she trys to get your attention again don't give it to her, cut contact etc.


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so you put it all on the line, told him that was your girl, she tools you, and you still actively tried to regain her affection, NEVER EVER EVER.... EVER do this again, if a girl tools you this bad, you should take the higher path, instead of trying to regain her, you should have just said, WOW, YOUR UNBELIEVABLE HAVE A GREAT NIGHT, then game girls outside of her view, and if she trys to get your attention again don't give it to her, cut contact etc.
Yeah I see where you're coming from and I pretty much agree, I don't give a shit about her anymore.. But then I figure if she's so slutty, she's going to be fucking somebody so it might as well be me. I want to get in there once before I leave her!

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