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PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 5:51 pm 
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I'm going out with a male friend tonight and he needs a wing really bad. I told him I would do it if I knew how, so I am looking for advice. What is it that I am actually supposed to do? He isn't shy to open at all. He is just a bit aggressive. I would really like to be able to help him tone it down a bit so he can be more successful, but I know I can't pull him away in the middle of his game to tell him to reel it in a bit. I know I am supposed to help with opening the group and clear the way for him to go for his target, but what can I do to accomplish that? I have gotten over most of my approach anxiety, this last couple of weeks has been really great for that. I could do just about anything at this point to help out my friend, so any words of wisdom?
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you don't have to do very much, just let him do his thing, and act like you're into him, that should be enough, if you think he fucked up try to fix it, and after the set tell him what you think he did wrong (assumed you guys have a game plan together and your going in tandem), also if he has some skill you can be his jealousy plotline, send him in solo and as soon as he has isolation and a k-close, walk up to him and go OMG *guys name* I haven't seen you in so long, you should come visit me tonight here is my number etc. you can play it how you want, just make sure you go easy mode and make the girl jealous and leave, the desired reaction you want from her is you leave and she says all pissed off, WHO WAS THAT?


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Given previous experiences, my first and foremost advice is to be subtle. Girlfriends "winging" me have dropped things like "he's such a catch," "I'd be with him if he was not my friend" or "he's an awesome guy" and it kinda destroyed my interaction with the girl I liked. You should give him value indirectly. Think about what makes this guy unique and try to show (not tell) that.

If he's being too aggressive, try to reel back the conversation or the situation, not him. Also, if he's being aggressive, you can act cool and laugh, showing the other girls that that's just his character and it's fine. To a certain extent, you are going to become a referent for them on how to react to him.


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Just being there will actually help a lot. If a guy walks into a bar and he is already with a woman, the others there will assume he's a decent guy. It's kinda common sense, if you want to hang with him, other women will wonder what positive qualities he has. As for him being overaggressive, well you have a few options. If you're with him while he's talking to a girl, when you see him go overboard you can say you want to do a shot with him, and while you step back to the bar say flat out "you're getting too aggressive."

I can't say much just because I'm not sure what you mean by aggressive. Does he make sexual comments and innuendo quickly in a way that ends up making him look creepy? Can he not take a hint and if a girl doesn't show interest he keeps going? Or is he too quick to please, offering to buy girls drinks and bending over backwards for them? I can see how any of those will be construed as aggressive.


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Are there any routines that have been put together for a guy/girl set up? That would be amazing :P

He is persistent, for lack of a better word. He also is very high energy and that can be a little intimidating to women. I personally think he has a ton of potential and compliments me well, so we could be a great team once we have figured more of this out.

I am always direct, so telling him to tone it down or move on isn't a problem. It's being stealthy that is a problem. Your idea for another drink is perfect, it will give me exactly the opportunity I need.


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Persistence is good. High energy is good.

So, what's your friend's problem again?


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It's a bit too much ;)

I agree, they are both good traits. He over exerts them, though.


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Also, I am definitely going to try the advice about going up and giving him my number. I think that would be perfect :)


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you don't really need routines as his wing, he can just do solo routines if he has any, the idea is when he goes with a female wing to and all girls set, they don't feel like he ''wants anything from them'' hes just there to have fun and add value to their night since he allready has a girl with him, also if he manages to pull, since he allready has a girl around him it reduces the what if this guy is a serial rape-murderer vibe, next if you go into mixed sets, you can blow out other guys for him and amog them, and get away with saying brutal things to guys that make them look bad that your friend could not get away with saying, also if your in tandem your plan should be for you to be all over him, if you notice attraction, you come on stronger, he blows you out, if not tandem and he goes in solo use jelousy plotline as mentioned in previous post,


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If you want to make it really smooth.

*Open Together. Great way to open is to a debate. "Me and my friend were arguing. Who lies more man or women?"

* DHV him. (Demostrating higher value). Basically, say stuff about him that's true that he can't say because it will be consider bragging.

*When you guys are hanging out, have him lean back and be chill while your leaning in like your in love with guy.

*Bring the party! Have fun even when hanging out.

*Find out who he likes, most of the time, is obvious. Let them talk by themselves while you talk to the groups friends. If there is a guy, flirt with him.


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All really great advice!!! Thanks so much! We are going out tonight, so we will try it out and see how it goes :) I have been a little worried on how much I should show interest in him, I don't want to scare off the possibilities. Many women won't mess with a guy they have seen with someone else already in the same night. We always have fun together, though I am more introverted and he is extroverted. It works for us as friends, but I am really curious to find out how it works for us as a PUA team :P


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My cousin thinks you're cute but he's shy...
Works EVERY time.


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