Can someone that has a girlfriend use any of the PUA rules in relationships. From my experience, when im in a relationship, I start to become the "nice guy" which is what the girl thinks she wants, but the more you become a nice guy, the less she respects you.

Lastly, are there any guides or posts on how to have a good relationship, using these rules?

Much appreciation....

i've actually just started an LTR about a week ago and have been thinking the same thing. how to transfer from a pick up to a LTR.
i remember reading somewhere about David D's ew factor, where if you tell a girl that you love her or wanna be with her forever or some romantic AFC shit like that then it repulses her a little bit.
and some conclusions i've thought abuot myself are that we still gotta be the prize. i saw this buddy icon (its for chicks) that says "wait for the guy who will do anything to be your everything" or some crap like that, and i figure that's the absolute wrong direction to go. hmm, now that i think about it, i'm just regurgitating mystery's cat string theory...w/e
yeah i'd love any advice on this

Ok, I can speak for myself when I say that every f-ing time I did the romantic (by this I mean typical AFC) approach to be in a LTR it either failed completely or the relationship simply didn't last.

The "be yourself" cliche actually applies to LTR.

I'm guessing that a girl who falls in love with you while you were picking her up, fell in love with the positive traits of a PUA that simply flow from an overwhelmingly high self-esteem.

It all boils down to whether your portrayed image of a healthy high self-esteem is authentic or not. If it is, your relationship will last. If not, you just weren't ready yet. I failed many times because I wasn't.

well ive been in this relationship for over three years, so it may be too late to change much, but from my experience, girls want to be treated like queens but only so they can treat you like trash. Im not saying i want to be controlling or a complete jerk, but it just doesnt make sense to throw all the rules out the window when you get into a serious relationship.

I will be reading through the forums and "the mystery method" as well as "the game" when my friend is done with them, and see what can be applied to relationships.

Also, is it a bad idea to be a wingman if you have a GF and are NOT willing to cheat, or can it work as long as I always say im visiting from out of town?

Any more opinions are greatly appreciated, it looks as if ive found a good resource here.

Dankid as long as you are smooth and know what your wing is up to, you will be a good wing. All you are going to do it hype up the guy you are the wingman for. EX: The PU will introduce you to the set after he has opened and there has been a hook, you will walk up and the PU will say: "Hey, guys, this is my friend Dankid, he once faught in the UFC." and then you as the wing would run the set for a bit with some sort of gambit.

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Ya, i know i can be a good wing, just gotta make sure girls are interested in me, and then avoid the later stages of the pickup Ie. seduction and sex; like the plague.

I'll be a great wing, but my friend sucks, and always gets stuck as the friend.
He has much to learn

All you have to do is A1,A2,A3, and then if you want to start some C1 go for it, but if you don't want anymore you should stop right there, just get a number and never call. I think to be a good wing thouhg, you have to be into it and not stand-offish. So act like your single, but just don't take it any farther.

PS: I know your not talkin about me

I've not read it yet, but there is a book I flipped through called "You Can Save your Realtionship and Marriage" by a person named Cucan Pemo. Don't hold me to it, but from what I caught you might find some useful info in there. Many of the basic principles in there paralelled the basics of PUA

thanks, i'll look into that book

I found these that seem pretty like pretty good advice...

http://www.becomeaplayer.com/articles/l ... nships.htm

http://seanmessenger.com/2007/08/how-to ... thful.html


I think im already pretty dominant in my relationship, but I could always act more alpha..... I think i need to demonstrate higher value, without negging her.

I'm pretty sure you don't want to let this stuff into your relationships guys. I have a girl who I'm probably going to get back together with at some point whenever it's possible (we live 2 states away right now), but I would never need to use this stuff on her. I'm pretty sure she'd kick my ass if I tried it. You're either dating the wrong types of girls or letting this stuff run your life. Remember the methods are supposed to improve your life not become it. When you start trying to game a serious relationship...you've really got to re-organize your life.

Once you are in a serious relationship she knows she's already got you. And if she's worth your time, than she loves that feeling. Be confident in yourself and her...no need for gaming a loved one.

the guys in mysterys show seem like different people after all that training, and i think that if u work hard and get used to pua u will change aswell. i really dont think u should use pickup in relationships, pickup is a game, relationships are serious. right?

Definitely agree with this. You've gotta constantly work on your inner game. Don't stop just because you have the girl.

Honestly, being a gentleman works great in a relationship, so long as you always make sure that you respect each other.

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Don't hate, just dominate.

key in the relationship(4-5 years) is not too get comfortable, also do not be a yes man, have a date night, comunication, but the pua things that you need to mantain in a relationship were people fuck up are :


leadership!

confidence( i know a bunch of guys what should i do? should i do this that)

looks( people let themselves go)

Jealousy..

failing shit test

Remember is a give and take, also when FIGHTING, OR ARGUING, most guys walk away huge mistake..


Finally, this one is a big one, a girl is in love, she tells you, this bothers me, guy ignore, 6 months later, babe this bothers me(same issue) guy ignores, 2 years later babe this bother me, guy ignore, she will ignore ignore ignore cause she loves you, but then, she will explode there is not return you can be the best pua in the world, once she is out of love, you are done... AGAIN do not get comfortable...


If you ever have problems, that are particular, pm me, i have been very very successful in all my relationships..3 things that kill relationships: money, sex, selfishness...David dangelo best for relationships from the gurus...

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