Ok guys, I'm pretty new to this forum, but I've been studying for a while.

What I want to know here, is I think that in most of the Method books out there, the openers that I've read about have probably been used so many times now that I am looking for ways of opening (mainly in club type venues) that would really work well these days.

I'm still at the stage where I would like to use some canned material to practise with, but I don't want to be using all the obvious openers that everyone knows of.

So if you guys have got good ideas and good openers that work well recently then that would be great.

Please only post a reply if you are offering value to my question, so no pointless responses about how canned material is stupid etc. There will come a time when I get more natural and won't need it, but right now I want to use what I can to practise with and I hope you understand this.

Also I'm from the UK so anyone from the UK is especially welcome to answer.

Honestly, canned material hasn't been used as much as you'd think. I mean sure, there are girls out there that have heard it, but considering this canned stuff is only used by PUAs, how likely is it that the girl you are opening has been approached by another PUA? and even if she has, how likely is it that this PUA used the exact same opener you are going to use? Just considering the immense volume of material out there, I'd say any opener you use is going to be one she hasn't heard before.

Or you could just go direct

if you dont want to use canned openers check out gamblers stealth attraction videos, they are awesome for loud clubs and such venues.

Never liked canned openers myself - makes me feel like a robot and i like to be myself and be fun, so a mixture of gamblers stealth attraction technique and some stuff that Vince kelvin talks about is great (learn how to say "your cute" in sign language - works like a charm).

youtube - 21 convention vince kelvin (love his style, very similar to how i am)

I don't mind using canned material for the first 5 mins to lock in etc, after that I'm pretty confident to take it natural. So I'm not talking about full routines here.

I am using a new one: very easy to get girls attracted (A1) and to find a social hook point, but still I have not F/K/N-closed someone with this opener (yet)

me: Sorry, can I ask you something?
HB: yeah, sure.
me: are you rich?
HB: what?? hahahahah! No, i am broke! Why you ask? [attraction, A1]
me: Sorry, then you are not my type [disarming her protection shield, not needy, DHV]
HB: hahaha! You like rich girls then?! /well, too bad then hahahaha!
me: since you are not my type, now we can have a normal, interesting conversation without the b/s [disarming protection shield, not needy, DHV]
HB: haha, that is true...
me: so, tell me, who are you?

and so on.....
This is just an opener, the rest of the convo is on your own

[on the street]

See a girl fiddling with her mobile phone while walking home from the pub towards my house..

me: hey.. you look lost..
her: [can't even remember what she said ]
me: so, did you have a good evening?
her: yeah.. we were at this place.. weren't many guys to hit on there unfortunately.. everyone was like.. married..
me: haha.. yeah.. some places are like that..
...
me: where do you live? (since we are both walking home)
her: I live over there.. pointing to the buildings where I live.. you?
me: so you live in the same house as me? what number?
...
...
[walking towards the entrance to my house]
...
me: so what are you gonna do when you get home?
her: not much really.. don't feel like sleeping though..
me: I'm so fired up as well.. last thing I wanna do is go to bed now..
me: come up with me.. we'll watch a movie or something..
her: sure..
...
[on my sofa] I talk a little with her.. what movies do you like blah blah.. then put up a movie on my laptop..
...
[holding my arm around her.. she moves her head towards me and gives all the positive signs that she is simply very very horny]
...
me: I wanna lick you. Is that alright? [while I move my body facing her on the sofa.. pull down her panties and eat her pussy] (perfect way to disarm nervousness in her so she can't push you away in the last second.. Also makes her so horny she WILL want to have sex with you.. If you just move towards her and kiss her and then try to somehow slowly get down to her pussy she is prone to saying things like "I gotta go now" or some other crap that doesn't make much sense)
...
me: hey.. let's go to the bed.. mmm..

That's it guys.. this was like the fastest one for me. Took maybe 15 minutes in total - from hi to fucking. The opener doesn't matter as much as you being able to make her feel secure and make her feel that you are safe to be around. Have a good conversation, ask her questions and take control - with both words and actions.

Much better to say things like "Come.. we'll watch a movie at my place (after you qualified her for that question)" than to say "Do you wanna come up and watch a movie with me?

100% agree. Statements are always better than questions. Don't ask for her permission. Makes you seem more dominant, which is exactly what she wants.