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PostPosted: Wed Jul 13, 2011 3:04 pm 
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Me: o:/Your outfit looks nice in that pic/Everything swell up
Her: Oh' thank you (kissyface)
Me: Youre very welcome/Your boyfriend must love you
Her: :)/Lml all them things there/TeamSingle ju heard
Me: That's good to hear/I would cuff yu up fast tho
Her: Oh
TRANSLATION

You: You're hot. I wanna fuck you
Her: Thanks
You: Are you single?
Her: Yes
You: Great! I wanna fuck you
Her: ...

Again, at no point in any of these conversations are you actually

(1) Showing anything interesting about yourself to her that would make her even slightly intrigued to get to know you better
(2) Asking her anything that indicates you have the slightest curiosity whatsoever in anything other than her physical appearance, let alone have the willingness to actually find out about her as a PERSON.

This is from another thread and is about conversations in real life, but so much of it applies to this that it's worth copy and pasting the entire thing:

The "AFC" conversation
AFC: So where are you from
Her: Nigeria
AFC: Oh that's cool. Uh, what do you do
Her: I have to go...
=> The classic "interview" style of questioning that builds nothing and goes nowhere.

The rAFC conversation
rAFC: So you seem like you're from Africa or some shit
Her: Yeah I'm Nigerian
rAFC: [Joke about Nigerians] + [DHV story about going to Nigeria / dating a Nigerian]
Her: lol, how about you
rAFC: [gigantic DHV story about where you're from and what you're doing now]
Her: lol
rAFC: If you could go anywhere in the world right now where would you go
Her: Hmm I dunno...I've always wanted to visit China
rAFC: holy shit no way! I was actually [DHV story about going to China]

=> Now you've got some DHVs and routines up your sleeve, you think just cuz she sticks around and listens, you're in there! Wrong! Of course she's willing to stick around, you're entertaining her! However, once you leave, you're just another guy texting her trying to get her out - she might KNOW a few things about you, and you might have found out a few things about her, but does she CARE about actually seeing you again, let alone whether or not you perceive her in a good light? Probably not.


The PUA Conversation
PUA: Wait a minute (sizing her up) you're not Nigerian are you?
Her: Yeah! How did you kn...
PUA: Oh shit. I'm going to back away slightly now ;-)
Her: lol why?
PUA: Ah, I just have this crazy Nigerian ex [DHV story] so know I know you guys are all bad news
Her: I'm good I swear!
PUA: Sure (take imaginary notebook out) "Caution: may be psychotic."
Her: lol
PUA: So a good girl, huh. Well, what's the last naughty thing you did?
Her: I dunno...
PUA: That's a crap answer. You can do better than that.
Her: Um, well I guess I played this joke on my boss at work...
...
...
PUA: Well, listen, you seem really cool - you're into retro shit like the 1930s and 50s, you're creative and artsy, although a bit pretentious let's be honest, you've got your own business so you're independent which is a huge turn on for me, I HATE clingy girls, AND you're fucking smoking hot! This is a match made in heaven, clearly! Tell you what, stick your number in here, and I'll take you to this really cool bar I know where they mix amazing cocktails and have live 30s style cabaret music, I guarantee you, you'll either love it, or we'll get trashed, or both!

=> By continually challenging her and NOT continuing to give her validation through funny jokes and interesting stories, she has to open up and prove herself more to you. Once you get her wanting you to see her a certain way, or be a certain type of person, not only does she now have an image for you she has to maintain, but she CARES about what you think of her. Only if she really liked you would she care - and now she's invested and will be much more likely to want to see you again. THEN you can give her a bit of validation and get a much more solid close.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2011 4:46 pm 
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He meant; you ask about the convo, not about the whole longer interaction.

Great post Ryan, props!


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 17, 2011 1:01 am 
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Haha I figured that was the problem. I'm gonna take from those posts that so far I'm jumping a little too fast. I guess that's what happens when ya get no buns. I'll slow it down a bit and try and be more playful to the best of my ability. I see that from that example (really great post btw) that the best way to interact is to tease, assume, and challenge? I guess my problem with hot girls is all I notice is the fact that their hot and don't try and fun talk them cause I just wanna sex. Hopefully I can get some good conversation out of this advice. :D

P.S. don't say I my style is nothing, buddy, you just don't know me. I've asked girls in the past about what I do wrong and guess what? Their advice would lead me to believe that I should be getting the most pussy in the world without changing a thing. Funny thing how that's not what happens right?

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 17, 2011 6:44 am 
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i know women try to seduce guys through testing.. but i've heard women complain and laugh at guys who try to hit on them and then keep texting them. women are not stupid, they get it that you are trying to seduce her through texting. if you've went out with a girl and she likes you or if you fooled around and she still likes you, then sure she'll be motivated to reply. or if she wants to keep going out with you, she'll keep texting you, and SHE will be trying to get long answers from you. but as it is, i think the women are just not showing any motivation. its like beating a dead horse. you cannot say anything to make them interested imho. the harder you try to get a reply from them, the more you drive them away. i know girls love texting and they think it's fun, and i dont know what the secret is. but i think u have to wait for them to sort of start chasing you and trying to lead you on and get you to text them.


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You're breaking my heart with that one. I wanna believe since I know I'm a cool dude and actually not just some horny dude begging pussy that girls can at the very least have interesting conversation with me. I just get aroused easy by certain types of pictures and then I'm trying to hit on the girl in question but I know nothing about her afterwards and fail to keep a convo going aside from maybe making a joke or two.

I've been taking a different approach in trying to get to know these girls but I still suck to be honest. I got some buns recently so I got better confidence that will hopefully take me a long way. I got a problem only when it comes to having interesting and fun conversations but I'm gonna learn to patch that up and become a master. Wish me luck in rousing maybe a little motivation out of these unmotivated chicks

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