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 Post subject: Re: Friend Zone
PostPosted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 4:04 am 
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Hey slywalker thanks for the great post.

I have been in the FZ with this girl for a few years and was wondering how i could change that. How have you used the FZ to your advantage in the past to f-close?
First of all, have you missed the latest internet pick up hype? Where you tell a girl you have known for a while "I have always had a crush on you" you could totally pull that off if you do it carefully.

Having said that, my best trick that I used to have sex with my female friends (sounds terrible when I write it out like this lol) was to invite them over for a movie, watch it on your laptop in your bed with a bottle of red wine, no food it gets messy and ruins the mood. After two cuddly hours of movie watching I never met any resistance!

I also wanna mention how you would smoothly handle the scenario of actually telling her you have a crush on her.
There are two things you need to avoid, 1. Don't sound desperate or needy in anyway, say it in a way that she thinks you want her, but you respect it if she doesn't and if she still wants to be just friends that's cool you don't care.
2. Make sure you don't say it when you are trying to feel her up, she will think you are a creep who just wants to have sex.
Try to tell her how you feel about her quite casually, and make sure to be a man about it, don't just give yourself over to her, make her understand that you are interested in her, but she has to put in a bit of work to get you, make sense?

As for the other question you PM'd me about, I hope you don't mind if I answer it here.

How to bring up sex in a conversation.

Well I understand that many guys are afraid to do this because they think they will sound perverted. The truth is, everyone loves sex, and everyone loves talking about sex, you just have to do it right!

See the thing is, perverted guys have issues with talking openly about sex, while guys who are confident with themselves and their sexuality can talk about openly about sex with no problem at all.

What you need to do is to bring up sex casually in a funny real life story or similar and then just take it from there. If you talk confidently about sex like it is a totally normal thing, most people will catch on and you can break barriers between you and the girl, sex is no longer something scary, sex is whatever, something you can do if there is time after the movie.

I will even give you a great story you can use to bring up the topic, this is a really funny story that I actually experienced first hand, but whatever, say it happened to your friend or something.

So in anatomy class a girl asks the professor: "how come sperm tastes bitter?"
The whole class just bursts out in laughter, now everyone in the class knows she swallows. But the even better part was the professors reply.
"Well it is probably because your taste buds that sense the bitter taste are located on the tongue far back in your mouth" and now, not only does every one in the class know she swallows, we also know that she takes it deep.

Real life story that can be really funny if you tell it right, and also a good way to casually bring up the topic of sex in a mature way.

I hope this helps.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 1:09 am 
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Bravo.

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This is the most interesting thread I have read here so far. The trend that I see emerging from the experienced MPUA's is that DHVing is not all that important which makes sense to me.

Most of the attraction seems happens in lower parts of the brain and the prefrontal cortex (your forehead, very recent part of the brain which chimps lack) mostly inhibits sexual attraction from escalating but doesn't cause it to happening.

I am speculating here but things like kino escalation and body language trigger lower (older in evolutionary terms) parts of the brain whereas DHV stories are more logical and might serve to remove some of the inhibition your prefrontal cortex creates, allowing kino escalation to happen.

It is well known that touch causes release of oxytocin in certain parts of your brain. oxytocin causes dopamine to be released in the parts of the brain that play an important role in sexual arousal.

In other words, constant kino escalation (push & pull) builds up the amount of oxytocin and certain other hormones to the point that women get more and more horny. As long as you don't let the conversation stall or become unpleasant and don't appear to be a low social status guy, kino escalation should work.

All very much speculating here. Will be field testing this in the coming weeks.


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 Post subject: Confidence
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I wish someone taught be how to be more self confident. I found this from a blog that really helped me.

First – recognize your filters. Become aware of what you say to yourself. Become aware of your attitude, and feelings.

Second – decide to change it. Make a commitment to remove your filters.

Third – Find resources to help you. Read books, join groups, find tools that work for you, get a coach, or a mentor.

Fourth – act on your commitment. Implement and Practice. Implement –DO IT. And Practice, Practice, Practice. You are not going to remove years of behavior in one day. It takes 21 days to change a habit, and rewire your brain. Remember – practice does make perfect, only if you put it into practice.

Fifth – be kind to yourself, and accept that you are in the perfect place right now!

What will happen when you remove your filters?

Self doubt becomes self assurance
Not good enough becomes loving and accepting you.
Having to be right becomes opening to possibilities.
Expectations become living in the moment.
Most importantly, your self esteem and self confidence will begin to grow!
Remember, holding on to these filters, stops your true self from shining through. 8) 8) 8) :D

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 Post subject: Re: Friend Zone
PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 4:13 pm 
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So in anatomy class a girl asks the professor: "how come sperm tastes bitter?"
The whole class just bursts out in laughter, now everyone in the class knows she swallows. But the even better part was the professors reply.
"Well it is probably because your taste buds that sense the bitter taste are located on the tongue far back in your mouth" and now, not only does every one in the class know she swallows, we also know that she takes it deep.

Real life story that can be really funny if you tell it right, and also a good way to casually bring up the topic of sex in a mature way.

I hope this helps.
I have a bit of a problem with this. I have a similar story about a nerdy day in physics class in high school (That's exactly how I bring it up) where a friend of mine was half-asleep in class as the professor mentioned something about "Kirkoff's first rule" - out of his daze, my buddy sits up and says "Wait a minute, what's the first rule of jerking off?" - without missing a beat the professor snaps his fingers and yells "LOCK THE DOOR."

It was great. It's a funny story that breaks the ice. I could even see myself transitioning into the story you told about the girl in class and say something like "Oh man, that class... It was crazy. This other time (blah blah - your story here)" - this is an easy topic to transition into, because it can come from "Funny school stories" (which EVERYONE has and EVERYONE likes talking about).

My problem comes in the follow-up, though. I'm afraid the girl will often just continue the conversation about school-related nonsense (when I'm clearly trying to bring up sex without being invasive), or that even I'll try to rush off of the topic so I don't sit there "Yep. Dick jokes. Yep." like a douche.

Anything you'd suggest? Is it enough to just 'bring it up' without it actually becoming a topic to discuss? Or is the goal here to actually get her to talk about it? If so, how do I prevent her from transitioning it into talking about more funny school stories or whatever?


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 10:22 am 
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Some girls resort to personal attacks, "Back of fatso" or "Not interested baldy" don't take this personal! Again, she doesn't know you, and a girl who just attacks one of your negative personal features before she knows you is a bitch, that is her problem, not yours, you don't want her anyway!


Isn't a 'neg' just a more subtle version of this? I generally don't like the neg thing..


it is a neg, how you get back at is:

her: not interested baldy
you: (face you head to her) and say shiny isnt it

make her laugh, and thats a start i think.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 11:42 am 
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how you get back at is:

her: not interested baldy
you: (face you head to her) and say shiny isnt it
Bad advice KeRaize. Seriously :)

This is no way to counter a neg like that..
Just go something back then.. be arrogant and funny at the same time.

Her: Not interested baldy
You: Great, I got issues with arrogance barbies aswel. *Blink* and say Bye.

Now that's better.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 11:51 am 
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how you get back at is:

her: not interested baldy
you: (face you head to her) and say shiny isnt it
Bad advice KeRaize. Seriously :)

This is no way to counter a neg like that..
Just go something back then.. be arrogant and funny at the same time.

Her: Not interested baldy
You: Great, I got issues with arrogance barbies aswel. *Blink* and say Bye.

Now that's better.


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ehh im new to this, i try lmao, true, you can do that :)

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ehh im new to this, i try lmao, true, you can do that :)
It's nothing personal KeRaize - maybe I just reacted my frustrations out on on.


Anyways - you need to realise these things.. topics such as these are written from a more 'specialist' kind of view. If you actually respond with a weak reply the person will not be growing. The thing you wrote doesn't get him anywhere instead of just being himself.

The point of a neg is being able to PUT it OUT there, be ASSERTIVE & have an ATTITUDE. If a girl does it, you should be able to bite back.

You're not a puppy, you're a bulldog.

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I'm pretty new to the community, and really appreciate all this! Thanks, Slywalker. I'll definitely try some of those things!


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I like the canned material to honest with you. only if you use it in the rite way

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I guess not evveryone likes the canned stuff

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This is some solid stuff... I'll keep it in mind.


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 Post subject: What Neil did not cover
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This is great info that neil did not cover


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this stuff is fucking golden but do you think its works on university chicks? cause im in university
I am also in college, and things are slightly different. Chicks in this realm are a little more shallow and "dumber" in general. It will be hard to hook a college chick into a deep, meaningful conversation. All of slywalkers advice still applies, but bear in mind that the reactions you get from them may be different from reactions you will get in the real world.

In my opinion, college chicks just get drunk and give themselves to the most alpha guy around.


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