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Thanks.. I basically called her, and she answered with " let's hang out now" .. We chilled n her back yard. Where she told me her parents leave today. I just flirted and touched a lot then went home at the point she wanted me most. So she could think about me and desire me for tonight once her parents eject. I'm thinking of texting her " does she have a blender" later so she can have one of my famous henny colada's.. I think I have it in the bag but if theres anything else you want to point out I'll be glad to here it


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im not great at making day 2's.
Any tips tricks strategies???

Also i fuck up well with hot girls (not been doing it that often recently ), but do well with ugly girls.

Is it because of my frame??????


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So last night I texted her... " you gotta blender?" ..no response. After the perfect night the day before. I just left it at that and went to sleep

She tells me sometimes she just goes cold on a guy she talks to for no reason. But come on?

Should I push further or just let her text/call me. She did tell me she has the open house so it would be cool to get in there


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Hi Ryan,
We all know that the ultimate goal of all PUAs is to get things go our way, and not the other way around. I'm currently in a sticking point and some of you may have good experience or opinions to share.
This "church girl" I'm currently gaming told me that she likes me. I can see that she's into me so much. I feel like I'm sucked into her reality in which she tries to get me into a proper relationship. Is there a particular line that I can show to her along the line of that I'm into the "friends with benefit" type but I don't want to be her bf. Is there a polite but attractive way of saying it aside from:
"I want to be single" < This line does not indicate that I'm open to sexual relationship
"I'm not a good boyfriend type, you don't want to date me" < will this work? This may be mistaken as a DLV instead of DHV

Any other suggestions of actions that you may be able to help me with? What will be the correct Alpha frame here?


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Hey Ryan

I just got another question for you.
Do you do Same Day Lays? and if you do, can you give out the basic... structure of it. Or just describe it, how it looks like on an example :)

Thanks

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im not great at making day 2's.
Any tips tricks strategies???

Also i fuck up well with hot girls (not been doing it that often recently ), but do well with ugly girls.

Is it because of my frame??????

and finally

Were you in the book "The Game" ?
The best ways to increase the chances of getting a solid day 2 are:

1. Finding out some common interests over the course of the first pickup, or first phone call
2. Using qualification, banter and teasing to get her to invest in you
3. Setting up the day 2 during the initial pickup / using future projection
4. Having an interesting and unique day 2 idea that isn't the usual "let's a get a drink sometime." Sign up to Groupon and Livingsocial, for example, where you can always get vouchers for random cool things going on in your area

Even so, flakes will ALWAYS happen. If any so-called "mPUA" tells you he has a 0% flake rate, he's flat out lying. You just have to accept that women are emotional creatures - one minute they love you, the next the forget about you, or backwards-rationalise that something was weird or off about you and won't want to see you again. It happens, so it's much healthier to just accept it and move on.


Your sticking point about the quality of girls is pure mindset. You're interacting differently with the ones you consider hot, than with the ones you don't. As soon as you ONLY approach the women you honestly find really attractive, and just treat them as PEOPLE (or even better, silly little girls), completely disregarding how they look, then you'll start to have the same success rate with hotties as with notties.


I was not featured in the Game, no. Where did you get that idea?

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I just got another question for you.
Do you do Same Day Lays? and if you do, can you give out the basic... structure of it. Or just describe it, how it looks like on an example :)

Thanks
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SDLs are not something I particularly try and go for, because I'm more into MLTRs with women I see on a consistent basis than one night stands, and because I think insta-dates are a waste of time for the most part, and the time is better spent getting numbers and then going on proper dates later on.

That said, if I were to go for one, this is likely to be the best scenario

Conditions:
1. She's probably a tourist in town only for that day, so it's unlikely you'll get the chance to meet up with her again, unless you do something right now
2. She doesn't have anything else to do for the next few hours

Steps:
1. From your initial approach, you have found out the above 2 important factors (or something closely approximating them)
2. Take her on an insta-date to a cafe that is very close to your house
3. Use screening and qualification questions to bring out of her these aspects: adventure seeking, fun, spontaneous, sexual, non-judgemental
4. Get her horny - talk about sexual topics, drop your voice tone and use seductive eye contact, kino, whisper dirty stuff into her ear
5. Get her home - you can use any excuse you like, from taking her on a scenic walk around your local area, to playing her a CD, or picking up something from your place before you guys head somewhere else.

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So last night I texted her... " you gotta blender?" ..no response. After the perfect night the day before. I just left it at that and went to sleep

She tells me sometimes she just goes cold on a guy she talks to for no reason. But come on?

Should I push further or just let her text/call me. She did tell me she has the open house so it would be cool to get in there
CALL, see how she is, joke around a bit, and then suggest hanging out and bringing something over to her free house she mentioned (booze, food, DVD, etc.) If the frame is just calling to catch up and say hi, then it's not really "pushing."

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"I'm not a good boyfriend type, you don't want to date me" < will this work? This may be mistaken as a DLV instead of DHV
Forget about what is or isn't a "DLV." If the outcome is that you want her to understand you're not the dating type, and you're not looking for a serious relationship right now, then you should tell her. I often add that I'd be OPEN to the possibility in the future if the right girl came along. This will often lead to her accepting being open/non-exclusive/casual/FB or whatever but trying to do what she can to convince you that she's the ONE you should be dating exclusively, which is completely buying into your frame and giving you the upper hand in the relationship dynamic. Alternatively, she may not go for it, but at least you were honest and didn't bend to HER will, making you the bitch in the relationship and less attractive to her as a result.

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So last night I texted her... " you gotta blender?" ..no response. After the perfect night the day before. I just left it at that and went to sleep

She tells me sometimes she just goes cold on a guy she talks to for no reason. But come on?

Should I push further or just let her text/call me. She did tell me she has the open house so it would be cool to get in there
CALL, see how she is, joke around a bit, and then suggest hanging out and bringing something over to her free house she mentioned (booze, food, DVD, etc.) If the frame is just calling to catch up and say hi, then it's not really "pushing."
I hate 2 keep this up lol last 1

So I called her up the next day, an she answered right away, we talked for 5 mins an I suggested we hang out later that night. Told her I'd call her. I called at like 1 am(too late loll) no answer.. That was Friday.. I left it alone since then. I haven't heard from her since. An I've left it alone..

She calls me last night the, telling me how bad she misses me and how much she likes me. I play with her saying "no you don't " an Wutever. She starts tellin me she feels like she being mean by not talkin to me sometimes. As if she's Tryin to get me to admit that I'm effected by her actions? I play it like it's no big deal. After 20 mins the convo just ends randomly. I'm not sure if she hung up me or I did her but I don't call back... An hour later I get a text saying "I'm not gonna talk to you, I guess this was a bad idea bye...." o.0? I don't reply...

What? This all happened after midnight. How should I take this


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"I'm not a good boyfriend type, you don't want to date me" < will this work? This may be mistaken as a DLV instead of DHV
Forget about what is or isn't a "DLV." If the outcome is that you want her to understand you're not the dating type, and you're not looking for a serious relationship right now, then you should tell her. I often add that I'd be OPEN to the possibility in the future if the right girl came along. This will often lead to her accepting being open/non-exclusive/casual/FB or whatever but trying to do what she can to convince you that she's the ONE you should be dating exclusively, which is completely buying into your frame and giving you the upper hand in the relationship dynamic. Alternatively, she may not go for it, but at least you were honest and didn't bend to HER will, making you the bitch in the relationship and less attractive to her as a result.

Thanks Ryan. I've seen your videos and know you're the real deal. It seems now I'm on the right track. Just gotta meet more girls for now :)


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I hate 2 keep this up lol last 1

So I called her up the next day, an she answered right away, we talked for 5 mins an I suggested we hang out later that night. Told her I'd call her. I called at like 1 am(too late loll) no answer.. That was Friday.. I left it alone since then. I haven't heard from her since. An I've left it alone..

She calls me last night the, telling me how bad she misses me and how much she likes me. I play with her saying "no you don't " an Wutever. She starts tellin me she feels like she being mean by not talkin to me sometimes. As if she's Tryin to get me to admit that I'm effected by her actions? I play it like it's no big deal. After 20 mins the convo just ends randomly. I'm not sure if she hung up me or I did her but I don't call back... An hour later I get a text saying "I'm not gonna talk to you, I guess this was a bad idea bye...." o.0? I don't reply...

What? This all happened after midnight. How should I take this
If you really do like this girl, why would you play it off like it was know big deal? She calls to tell you that she likes you and misses you and play it off like its no big deal? To a girl this feels like rejection.

She just admited she likes you (IOI) and your no big deal is a (IOD) response. The Im not going to talk to you, guess it was a bad idea sounds like she feels like she got rejected.

So what you want to do is just continue to escalate the interaction towards what YOU want. Do you want to date this girl? or a ONS? or open relationship? So tell her you like her too in your own way and then try to meet up for day 2 and focus on having fun and making her laugh
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Thanks Ryan. I've seen your videos and know you're the real deal. It seems now I'm on the right track. Just gotta meet more girls for now :)
Ryan got videos? post a link i havent seen em yet

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4 Questions mate how many times did you try succseed an what pushed you on i got pretty much rejected on all 13 today i did direct, using stuff like your arse is amazing. an a few lighter things its a bit of a confidence killer.

What is the best way to approach what angle an is it ok to kino on the first encounter i carnt help but do it when i see one. But i sure could change it if i can not.

And even if i get rejected by a hb10 an she doesnt even take notice will it still improve my game just because i did it like on a subconsious thing or somethin.
will it make me more confident in the long run with women

How do i get them to stop to atleast talk to me an just not walk away i know its a numbers game i hope tommorow i get atleast 1 number thats my goal an approach 20 girls

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