So this HB8 I'm seeing tonight and I have texted back and for two days now. Pretty sexual stuff, and we've all but said we're going to have sex. Here's the issue.

I'm meeting her when she gets off of work at 10pm. We're going bowling, and it's a ways away. I offered twice to drive her, but she wants to drive herself there. I'm going to offer again, tonight. If she's in my car, there's no trouble. But if not, how do I isolate smoothly, and take her somewhere to have sex, as I'm unfamiliar with the area, and the nearest motel is kinda far... Should I just recommend we meet up back in our own area after bowling and try to show her something at my (empty) house? That just seems like a not-so-smooth stretch to me...

Why feel the urge to have sex right now? You can just as easily tease her and keep the sexual tension she will only get more attracted since you won't give it up that easy.

Fair point. Don't bother offering again, but have a couple options open. It could be possible to bounce to a location nearer to your house beforehand, somewhere less threatening (kind of works as a compliance ladder too). Just be flexible and ready to take advantage of opportunities as they come.

i agree w/ Slip n Slide, don't offer again, you'll tip your hand. i also agree w/ GameIsOn, i think you should escalate while you're @ the date.

i've been in a similar situation where i went on a date w/ an hb (separate cars) & i just escalated while i was on the date. @ the end of the night, she ended up offering me to go back to her place.

perhaps @ this point she doesn't want to give it up too easily? even if you have established the fact that you're eventually gonna f-close.

you're doing just fine & i don't think you should risk looking desperate/needy to f-close. i hate using the words desperate & needy b/c i know you're not, but i think you're showing how much you want to f-close by trying to isolate her.

good luck man.

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