hey everyone,

my number close comes several minutes after talking (building attraction) to the hb. firm eye contact & confident body language are important as i look straight @ her & say, "listen, you & i are gonna go out to dinner, so put your number in my phone so i can call you," then i hand her my phone. this usually works but if they hesitate or reject, i come back w/ "i'm not leaving here w/out your number so you might as well put it down" & i follow that statement w/ a smile.

so some of the questions i wanna ask are:
i) i usually leave a minute or two after the number close, should i stay longer?
ii) is it too early to be offering to take her on a date?
iii) how long should i wait to contact her?
iv) what are some creative ways to contact her (via text)?

all critiques are welcome, thanks.

How often do you use this? Very effective?

Stay as long as you can maintain your frame. Instant dates are wonderful and daytime k or f closing isn't impossible. That is the perfect amount of time to be offering a date. Wait a day or two, but if you have something funny to send you could text her immediately, and it can be useful to establish that precedent, especially if you're good at text game. There's a list of text openers somewhere around here. You can send a blank text, she'll reply with "y did you send a blank message?" or whatever, you say "Haha you don't need to make up excuses to text me" (make sure she doesn't seem like the flakey type before you send this, I've used it three times, first one didn't respond, second responded with "Hey" and the last one worked perfectly.)

i use this a lot actually & it is effective as long as you've built attraction & have good subcommunication (strong eye contact, body language, smile, etc.). do you think i'm being submissive by offering to take her on a date during the number close though?

also, i forgot to mention that before i say any of that, it's preceeded by "my friends are looking for me so i have to go..." as if i was meaning to ask all along but waited until i had to go, is that weak?

also, i did text her & it went something like this:

me: you know, it's ok to ask right?
hb: ask what? lol
me: when i'm available, what kind of food i like, anything you need to know to take me out...

& i just took it fr. there. i thought it was a good text but only b/c i had established the idea that we were gonna go on a date. & the whole role reversal thing was funny so it worked.

No way man, you're doing great! Either establish the date time and place, then have two or three short funny text conversations (there are plenty of great funny openers on this site) so she feels like she knows you a little bit, then end the last one with "So I'll see you ___!" to help keep her from flaking

OR just go spontaneous and say "Me and friends (INCLUDE GIRLS) are going __, wanna come?" then take the party to your place afterward.

thanks for your feedback man, i appreciate it.

I think this all depends on locale and type of girl. If it's working, then awesome man. The number close I've been working with is a little more gamey but it's amazingly effective. I'm a huge mind fucker, meaning I like to talk to a girl and get to know them until I find their emotional triggers and interests to lead into the number close. I'm also a huge reader so I know a lot of little things about a lot of things so if a girl says something I know a little bit about, I'll start talking to her about it (always big smile, high energy like I'm the shit) and then while I'm in my little speech about whatever she finds interesting I always tell her "You have to listen to this song, it reminds me of (blah blah blah blah blah) I bet you'll love it! I can't remember the name of it but when I get home tonight I'll text you the name. Give me your number quick in case we leave, so I don't forget." It might sound lame but I've honestly never had it not work.

And then when I get their number I got a pretty decent text game so I get her more comfortable with me, then I get them out on a date and F-close (if I like them). I'm more picky about the girls I sleep with though and I find the whole process more enjoyable if I'm getting it with someone I actually like and not some one night stand so if you're anything like me, this is a different way to build some substance out of a casual meeting.

i like that number close actually. i like that you did it casually & didn't wait til the end. that's the problem i have. i've developed this habit where i number close when i have to go. i read somehwere that it shows weakness, kind of like kissing a girl @ the end of the date only b/c it's the last chance you have. what do you think of that? i'm gonna work on staying after i number close.

& i find that knowing a little bit about a wide variety of topics definitely boosts your value to the hb. i'm fr. toronto where it's very multi-cultural so i find that it helps to know a thing or two about different cultures. for instance, the hb i number closed was macedonian so after she told me that, i said, "one of the biggest misconceptions people have is thinking that alexander the great was fr. greek, when in fact he was macedonian..." & i ramble on fr. there. women eat this shit up so i highly recommend doing this in a place where it is multi-cultural. even knowing a phrase or two (i know swear words in russian, portugese, polish, etc.) will go a long way.

Couldn't agree more. Getting a number at the end put's a lot of unneeded pressure on you and her so that's why I typically go for the number at random intervals, depending on where the conversation is going. It's amazing how sexy HB's think intelligent men are. I don't know if it's the alpha thing coming into full swing or if it's a change from the other 1000's of guys trying to tag them, but intelligence can go a long way in your game if you know how to use it.

You have to act like your an important person, and youve got places to be - people to see. She's using up your time.

Bottom line is, your not going to fuck her just because she gave you her number, shes just giving you a chance. With that chance you then play her like a guitar.

If you are to say anything more or less, it would be telling her to hurry up with the number because you've got places to be!

Number close as quick as possible, set up a date, on that date give her your full attention and work your game from there. Bottom line is, your not going to fuck her just because she gave you her number, shes just giving you a chance. With that chance you then play her like a guitar. (which is very special of you, because your a busy and important guy

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