to the op

your equation pua-common sense = creepy that means effectively that PUA *is* creepy

pu is simple

look as good as you can under the circumstances
get your face in front of girls and actually meet them, escalate physically when appropiate...if not appropiate then eject and move on
at this point of escalation you will find out if she is sexually interested or not
if she is interested get her somewhere and do the necessary
if she is not interested move on - this last thing is almost totally out of your control...the better looking you are the less you will have to move on...uglier guys expect to do a LOT of repetition due to rejection...and yes they really are as shallow as men regarding looks before you ask

no routines, no NLP BS, no BS DHV spkining,no fake it til you make it, no Cube....NONE of those are needed

there was some really good stuff covered in this thread it helped alot.

i have a tendency to get carried away. i like the idea of the game and having so much to learn (im also a massive fan of sports psychology, as im a golfer), im here because no one really sat me down and said "this is the reason you are not good at maintaining friendships, meeting new people and getting nice looking girls in your life" . i get so excited about it that i wanna run around a telling everyone i know about the most effective way to approach a set of girls (thats creepy) what reading this thread has taught me is that:
1) probably best to not get obsessed and see it as away to enrich my life not fix it completely
2) these aren't magical incantations to make us the most amazing person to walk in to a nightclub/coffee shop. but it can help us meet some really interesting people and have some fun (that we wouldnt have otherwised done with out any canned material). and eventually by law of averages all that practice should get me laid with i girl i find attractive. and build a higher self esteem...which should help us perform better professionally at work aswell.

am i on the right track here fellas?


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