I always seem to come off as a creepy guy to women.



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 11:15 pm 
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Something about my style of how I approach or something? I don't know, but typically if I go up to talk to a woman I get a "what is this about?" or "what do you want from me?" type of response or look on their face. They don't actually say those things, but I rarely get a warm response from a woman who actually wouldn't mind talking to me. I attempt to talk to women in most places I go, which includes the gym, bars, and yup, that's about all there is to go around here.

I know it's a very general question but what could be the problem? I don't use pick-up lines or anything, typically I go up to them and just say hi or something of that nature.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 11:42 pm 
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People, especially women are genuinely terrified of other people they don't know. Stories of serial killers and rapist in the media and Hollywood do not help either.

The way around this is talking and getting to know to all relevant MEN and women in a particular environment e.g. when at a bar or club or any place you'll be going to regularly get to know all employees especially the management and security guards.

When talking always banter about light issues such as sports, celebrities, fashion, events and present surroundings, never politics or other people. Also make it fleeting, over-communicating demonstrates low value.

Having wingmen and female friends also helps to make you look less creepy and more comfortable to be around.

All in all communication is a skill, daygame, nightgame and workgame are skills that take time to learn. Unfortunately, there will be people who will not like you no matter what you do, you'll just have to deal with that.

Good luck.


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2 things if you work on will help you out.

Work on your body langauge. It should be open. And your style. This should help you a lot with your approach.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 1:41 pm 
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lol yes work on body language .... now you will become a creepy guy with great bodylanguage....

dude you interpret it as being creepy... maybe you are unconciously being creepy because of some issues.

dude i mean wtf .. everytime you approach a stranger they will look like ''what the hell are you doing ? '' , because you are actually interupting them. they don't know anything about you - they don't know you have interesting hobbies or knowledge - everytime you approach a woman she will think you are trying to hook up with her.

if a woman approach me on the street and talks to me i know she's into me unless it's my 65 year old neightbour who is a very nice person in general.
if you rarely get warm responses then you are just sending of wrong messages unconciously in your subcommunication. You have no emotional interaction at all, if woman sense this you are toast.

have you tried to fix any issues .. issues you never seen or issues you repressed ? not being good with woman is just a symptom of a underlying problem.

what are you thinking bnefore you approach
what are you thinking during the approach /interaction
what is your intention .. why do you approach them ?

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"Creepy" comes off mostly in the eyes and smile, and how you look at other people. Just check yourself in front of a mirror, find your best smile / look. If Neil Strauss could do it, you can too.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 1:04 am 
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Please explain what you mean by "open body language". What would closed body language look like.

Very interesting and good responses.

I do not interpret myself as creepy but have been called that by my friends (girls and guys) and shit in the past and I always think it is absolutely ridiculous. It must be the way I look at people. Even a guy in the gym called me a creeper and he never even saw me talk to girls! Hmmm, fuck.

I guess I haven't thought about what I do when I talk to girls. It usually depends on how the particular approach is going. Most of the time I just spend the time period before I talk to them hesitating if I should go over there. Then when I finally do, I typically have to come up with things to say because most of the time they do not appear interested in talking to me.

Hmmm yes I can see how this looks like a giant mess. But it's hard when women give you really shitty answers to any question and appear to just want you to leave.


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i'd say make eye contact and get a smile from her first if you want to approach the girl. if not, she probably doesn't want you to approach her to begin with.


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Watch the pua artist on vh1(i posted the seasons), and watch keys to the vip(also posted the seasons)...See the guys body languages and what they do wrong and right, i think it will help you..

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Watch the pua artist on vh1(i posted the seasons), and watch keys to the vip(also posted the seasons)...See the guys body languages and what they do wrong and right, i think it will help you..
Where did you post the seasons? Have a link? Are you talking about a torrent file or??


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i posted them in the video section of the forum...

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