Thanks a lot! It seems as though I have shopping to do. I normally stick to nice jeans and halter tops, which are typically going to be black. I guess I shouldn't stay in the 'safe' fashions if I want to get noticed.

I've been watching tons of videos and reading a lot of these threads. It seems like a lot of this is based off of body language. I never really know what to do with my body that doesn't seem too forward. First of all, God was generous on my top half and greedy with the bottom half, so it's hard to find clothes that don't show a decent amount of cleavage and still fit everywhere else. Especially clothes meant for a night out. When you go out to a club, the music is always so loud that you don't really have a choice except to lean over to hear and be heard. Of course, that means my boobs are probably going to end up close to a face somewhere along the way. I think that some guys think I do this on purpose, but I don't. What is the best way to talk with someone at a night club without looking like a hoochie? :p

look at the guy and smile, then look away...Put yourself in a position were is safe for him to approach, hardest part as i said is the circle that women form sometimes, other than that as long as you have a hole you will find plenty of guys, trust me...If you have big boobs, have clothes that compliment your boobs... If you are heavy set were black(no tight to body) and jeans... Do not go up to guys let them come to you, when girls come up to me lower her value in my eyes, if you like a guy look at him flirty and give him smile and look away...Now a good strategy is to come to the guy if you want to do that and say hey, i want to dance with you later and walk away, that way the guy can check you out and see if you are his type, that is the biggest problem i have when girls come up to me to dance, i do not know how the body looks, so if you use my strategy, since men are visual it will be less threatening and he can check you out, DO NOT FOLLOW GUYS AROUND, a lot of girls do that stuff to me, that is a nono that is psycho...

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I have never followed a guy. You're right, that is creepy and shows some psychotic tendencies. I will try to be coy, as per your suggestion. The girl's I go dancing with keep themselves at a little bit of a distance. I don't think our group would be one of the closed in groups you are referring to. I have seen that and, again, you're right, it doesn't look like they want to be approached. I spend all of that time getting ready to be noticed and approached, not noticed and ignored because my girlfriends are hanging all over me. I watched on of the videos that was sent to my email. That guy has it right! He talked about how we go through all of that effort to be appreciated for it. Any guy can come up to me and I will be nice, no matter if I am interested in their appearance. I'm probably going to make an ass of myself, but I'm going to be nice!

Pagan i forgot to tell you. have a guy you are interested in take a picture of you and your friends, that is a good opener: BUT FOLLOW UP with something, maybe because of being a good sport now you have earn a dance with me, or take a picture of me and my friends, and i let you dance with us... So if he says no or he is a dick, you save face because people saw him taking a picture...I think this is brilliant... Patting myself in the back lol!

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I like that one I'll use it next time I go out, just have to remember to take my camera!

Okay, couple of times at clubs women will dance and pull away and back away, do not chase ever ever(shit testing), if you lost her you lost her, but do not chase ever, let her come back to you, or just leave....When she starts talking i do not care how loud the club is do not lean in, keep your head straight or slightly up at all times... Also do not be a dancing monkey, i see a bunch of excellent/awesome dancers getting all the attention, but never kclose, fclosee, dancing monkeys... Do not walk around the club like you are lost... Ok couple of observations of mistakes i have seen guys do this weekend. I am incorporating my own style/version of mm to dancefloor game lately it seems to be working, here how it works i will pass the target over the shoulder and come back kind of walking backwards while kind of dancing and get into a side but bit backwards angle, i incorporated it for the last 2 weekend, have not gotten one dancing rejection, even when the girl is not interested... What else if she starts acting like she is hot and doing the hand signal for air, is either she wants you to isolate, or she wants to get rid of you, so you need to figure out which one of the two is it, at that point you will act neutral, and ignore her a bit, look at her body language, if she wants out, try to leave first, if she may want isolation grab her hand, say come on lets go, and LEAD, walking in front of her, you need to know your club surroundings....

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k another thing, do not compete for a dance, specially when other guys want your target dance, you are the prize, remember to get a girl you must be willing to lose a girl, if this happens either turn her in a way to block the amog, or if is too early in the interaction let them have her, and dance like nothing happened, keep neutral, she most likely diss the guy and come back to you...I was dancing about a month ago with this girl, i made out with her, there were couple of girls dancing next to us and i was like signaling, eating shit with my hands like a dance encouragement, hard to explain, no big deal, the girl i was with got upset, for not reason, acted jealous and stop dancing with me, i do not reward irrational, bad behavior, i ignore her, she never came back, worst, she trying to hook up with a good looking natural/afc, he get a lot of the girls but do not close, for the last 3 weeks she is been hanging out with him, without nothing happening, i always say hi, normal, give her a kiss, like nothing happened, and do my thing, this weekend, i say hi, and she stay, i dance, isolated, made out with her, touch her everywhere... She started talking about the other, guy, i said do you want me to talk to you about my girls, ok i have this girl blha blha, she say stop, ok so you get the point eh... made out for 10 minutes, she had to go to the bathroom, and she said, what would happen if i go to the bathroom and i met another guy(shit test), i say nothing you will dance with him, most likely he will not know how to dance, try to fill you up, while me i just go and dance with another girl who will have a lot fun with me. she agreed ask me to walk her to the bathroom which i did, when she went in, she told me to wait for her outside, i agreed, she went in! i ran away to another club....But the moral of the story, is do not chase...

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i went to the page, the first video, says girls go out to dress up and have fun, other than that weak, the guy dancetothebeat with the hat excellent, but i do not like the coming from behind, the other guys weak, if you notice more girls than guys in the video(no competition), if that was the case it would be easy, my experience, always 5 guys per girl, at the buying time at clubs...

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I do have a question of my own. I go to night clubs and dance by myself. I am a natural dancer (just discovered it this year, thought I was uncoordinated and awful all my prior life) and my moves look sleak and sexy. Often when if I approach a girl to talk, the first thing she says is she noticed me dancing and she and her friend were talking about how good I dance. I stand and dance on my own. I see a girl take her friends hand and pull her to where they are dancing in front of me. But they are not looking at me much. That happens over and over again, a girl and her friend will start dancing in front of me. If I leave, and some guy approaches them, they move away from him and start dancing in front of me again. After an hour, I see sets of girls all around me, literally, ten or more girls total, each in their groups of two or three or four. I know that some of these girls do this because they like me and also because I don't approach girls to dance, they are not afraid to stand near me. Often a girl will start dancing with her back toward me, and I will be wondering whether it is OK to start dancing with her, and after a while she gets bored that I don't approach her and starts grinding the first sleazy drunk guy that approaches her. My question, how do I make up my mind whether I want to try dancing with a girl that might be trying to get my attention, because there is risk involved. I don't want to make a girl uncomfortable, don't enjoy getting rejected, and also I do not want to be a sleazy guy who forces himself on a girl and traps a drunk girl in his arms so that he grind himself all over her. I also am afraid of getting some sort of std and think it's weird that girls kiss sleazy strangers on the dance floor. I guess one of my sticking points has been being afraid of kino (and i have progressed a lot this year, i used to feel uncomfortable getting hugs from women and kissing them on the cheeck and grinding, especially strangers, my fear being of not knowing if it was OK with the girl), but at the same time I do not want to get an std or piss any girls off by coming on to them. Usually, if I start out dancing with a girl at a distance where our bodies do not touch, and girls have complimented me on how I am "not grabby like many other guys" and I hold the dancing frame and let the girl decide the distance. Often the girl will come closer and start front grinding on my body, then I might press her against me, I do not hold her towards me against her will, always give her space and let her stay far apart if she pulls away. On the other hand, I see guys getting so much ass from girls and I want to get in on the action. I wait for a girl to face me directly for ten seconds or a minute before I know for sure she wants me to approach her. So question #1 is how do I decide whether it is worth the risk to start dancing with a girl?

Question #2 is this. Often, when a girl starts grinding her butt on me, I do the grinding dance, but she loses interest. I think the problem is that I feel shy and feel like everyone is looking at me now that I am grinding this girl, and I end up looking like I dont feel comfortable that the girl is grinding on me (i probably am feeling uncomfortable too) and the girl stops. Also, grinding hurts my penis after a while. It feels much better if a girl is wearing a skirt rather than jeans. I notice that other guys who seem to surround the girls rather than being surrounded by girls as often happens to me (sorry i am not bragging, my friend confirmed that this is real and not just my fantasy), these guys that just surround a group of girls and grind up behind them, I notice that the guys get really into it, like they are really humping the girls and they often become grabby too, and what is surprising is that the girls have this dirty smile on their face and seem to enjoy it. The girls of course look at their friends for approval and make sure the friends are grinding guys too before they do it. I noticed that when I am grinding a girl, even if she has that dirty smile at first, that look quickly disappears.

Sorry for the long post. Any advice appreciated.

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I do have a question of my own. I go to night clubs and dance by myself. THIS IS GOOD SINCE EASIER FOR WOMEN TO APPROACH AND OPEN YOU... I am a natural dancer (just discovered it this year, thought I was uncoordinated and awful all my prior life) and my moves look sleak and sexy.GOOD/IMPORTANT Often when if I approach a girl to talk, the first thing she says is she noticed me dancing and she and her friend were talking about how good I dance. PRETEND TO LOOK BACK LIKE THEY ARE TALKING TO SOMEBODY BEHIND YOU IN SURPRISE, THEN SAY ME REALLY, I AM BLUSHING LOL!I stand and dance on my own.GOOD I see a girl take her friends hand and pull her to where they are dancing in front of me. But they are not looking at me much. That happens over and over again, a girl and her friend will start dancing in front of me. THEY WANT TO BE OPEN! If I leave, and some guy approaches them, they move away from him and start dancing in front of me again. After an hour, I see sets of girls all around me, literally, ten or more girls total, each in their groups of two or three or four. THEY WANT TO BE OPEN OMG! I know that some of these girls do this because they like me and also because I don't approach girls to dance, they are not afraid to stand near me. OPEN OPEN OPEN BY DANCING WITH THEM YOU ARE SCARE 3 SECOND RULE YOU WAIT AND HOUR OR SO LONG SHOWS YOU ARE SCARED LACK OF CONFIDENCE...Often a girl will start dancing with her back toward me, and I will be wondering whether it is OK to start dancing with her, and after a while she gets bored that I don't approach her and starts grinding the first sleazy drunk guy that approaches her. EXACTLY YOU TAKING TOO LONG!My question, how do I make up my mind whether I want to try dancing with a girl that might be trying to get my attention, because there is risk involved. I don't want to make a girl uncomfortable, don't enjoy getting rejected, and also I do not want to be a sleazy guy who forces himself on a girl and traps a drunk girl in his arms so that he grind himself all over her. AFC AFC AFC, GRAB YOUR BALLS BE A MAN, WHO THE FUCK CARES ABOUT REJECTION, WORK ON YOUR INNER GAME AND OVERALL GAME..I also am afraid of getting some sort of std and think it's weird that girls kiss sleazy strangers on the dance floor. WTF! USE A CONDOM!I guess one of my sticking points has been being afraid of kino (and i have progressed a lot this year, i used to feel uncomfortable getting hugs from women and kissing them on the cheeck and grinding, especially strangers, my fear being of not knowing if it was OK with the girl), but at the same time I do not want to get an std or piss any girls off by coming on to them.FALSE BELIEF, THAT IS IN YOUR HEAD, CONDOMS! Usually, if I start out dancing with a girl at a distance where our bodies do not touch, and girls have complimented me on how I am "not grabby like many other guys" and I hold the dancing frame and let the girl decide the distance. Often the girl will come closer and start front grinding on my body, then I might press her against me, I do not hold her towards me against her will, always give her space and let her stay far apart if she pulls away. On the other hand, I see guys getting so much ass from girls and I want to get in on the action.EXACTLY, PROBABLY ME, I wait for a girl to face me directly for ten seconds or a minute before I know for sure she wants me to approach her. So question #1 is how do I decide whether it is worth the risk to start dancing with a girl? DUDE YOU HAVE APPROACH ANXIETY, THERE IS PLENTY OF INFO. ON THE SUBJECT IN THIS BLOG, DO THE 3 SECOND RULE...

Question #2 is this. Often, when a girl starts grinding her butt on me, I do the grinding dance, but she loses interest. SHE IS GETTING BORED, WHEN YOU ARE DANCING YOUR JOB IS TO MAKE HER HAVE FUN, COMFORTABLE AND THEN TURN HER ON WITH DANCING,I think the problem is that I feel shy and feel like everyone is looking at me now that I am grinding this girl, and I end up looking like I dont feel comfortable that the girl is grinding on me (i probably am feeling uncomfortable too) and the girl stops. EXACTLY, YOU NEED TO WORK ON YOUR OVERALL GAME, INNER GAME, APPROACH ANXIETY.Also, grinding hurts my penis after a while. AH, WEAR TINY WITTIES AND PUT YOUR PENIS STRAIGHT DOWN POSITION SO WHEN IT GETS HARD IS A VERTICAL FLASHLIGHT HAHAHAHA !It feels much better if a girl is wearing a skirt rather than jeans.I LOVE DRESSES AND SKIRTS, IT DOES FEEL BETTER UHMM, ONE TRICK IS WHEN IT LIFTS PULL IT DOWN, SHE WILL START TRUSTING YOU,I notice that other guys who seem to surround the girls rather than being surrounded by girls as often happens to me (sorry i am not bragging, my friend confirmed that this is real and not just my fantasy), these guys that just surround a group of girls and grind up behind them, AFCS/LOSERS, I notice that the guys get really into it, like they are really humping the girls and they often become grabby too, and what is surprising is that the girls have this dirty smile on their face and seem to enjoy it. PROBABLY ME!LOL!The girls of course look at their friends for approval and make sure the friends are grinding guys too before they do it. I noticed that when I am grinding a girl, even if she has that dirty smile at first, that look quickly disappears. THEY ARE GETTING BORED AND START REALIZING YOU GOT NO GAME AND SKILLS, SO THEY EJECT

Sorry for the long post. Any advice appreciated. YOUR WELCOME!

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This is by a member name aces high:


In the club scene peacocking + confidence on the dance floor will garner you instant attraction. Dance with all of the girls(foucs on obstacles first this will help you DHV and will prevent you from being cocked blocked later on) you want them to believe you are just there to dance nothing more(this is indirect because most guys that just go in and start dancing with thier target convey that they are sexually attracted to them and thus DLV). Ignore the target until you have won the crowd over, then suddenly grab the target and pull her in close(this must be done without hesitation) dance with her for a moment pull her in as if you are going to kiss her then push her away. This will make her think that she has blown her chance with you and thus force her to IOI to win you back. At this point I have had girls grab my hand and place it on their ass while they grind on me. I will keep my hands there for just a moment and then spin her around to face me, as I do I wll place the hand that I am holding on my shoulder and wrap my arm around her waist and pull her off the dance floor and bring her to a quieter spot in the club(normally the bar). In my past experience as soon as we are seperated from her friends she will give me yet another IOI by telling me I'm a good dancer, or try to get me to qualify myself by asking me "how did you learn to dance like that"(I respond this this by saying"like what" or "buy me a drink and Ill tell you"). I go into a DHV routine about how you can learn alot from a person by how they dance and use cold reading techniques to tell her about herself. After this I just try to build up comfort with stories and games(point out a guy fist bumping like a looser on the dancefloor and tell her that she's perfect for him). Once I build up enough repport Ill tell her about a great sushi place nearby and bring her on an instant date, if she doesn't want to leave her friends just get her number and tell her that she owe's you for the dance(if she didn't buy you the beer) plan out the date then and there if possible. You don't want to call her on the phone and plan the date that way, and it will make you more rememberable.


This one is by rickydude another member good stuff that will work from both members:

If your tall and semi goodlooking then you already have alot of help on dancefloor game without doing anything but dancefloor game is just like any other game and what i mean by that is that its about your game not only about your looks but of course looks will make it easier. So you dont be a wall flower, never stand by the wall or in the dancefloor actually get into the crowd of people dancing and dance dont focus on trying to get girls but enjoy the music while doing a few moves that your practiced a shit load off of youtube like nightclub hits or whatever and once you have your dancemoves pretty good either theyll come to you, get close to you and give you signals,or you come close to them as in not directly in front of them but to a angle and make eye contact and if they step close to them and put one hand forward so theyll grab your hand then of course now you can start the game with the push/ pull for awhile then the kiss close. I just started working on my dancefloor game recently. Good luck!!
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Hey I was wondering how do you guys dance in r n b/ dance nightclubs/bars?

Also how about rock bars? Girls in rock bars tend to head-bang, and it's not very intimate when I try to dance with them.

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Rock girls, they are freaks in my experience, but i do not recommend this type of clubs, because music is not conducive to kino, and more of a group mentality(women in groups that act like one)

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"The hardest part doesn't even involve a girl. it invovles how you act WITHOUT women. Women at a club WILL notice a guy that goes from girl to girl asking to dance and will obviously look down on you. The key is to keep moving and avoid staying in one place for too long. If you see a girl you are really interested in, you can do one of two things: 1.) approach her, tug her hand, and when she makes eye contact ask her to dance (Be careful with the hand tugging, you don't want problems if shes with her man. If anything get her attention another way and ask. A LOT OF WOMEN LIKE IT WHEN MEN ASK) or 2.) look at her and wait for eye contact, smile, and if she gives you the que ask her to dance or just get to it.

Once you are dancing with a woman, especially for 2 or more songs, it is smooth sailing. Make moves, touch her, compliment her, grab her hand and place it on you/your face. When shes dancing with a lot of effort and a lot of touching is occuring, grab her hand and turn her fron side towards you and start dancing. MAKE SURE TO KEEP CLOSE WHEN YOU DO THIS. When you great of eye contact, youre faces make contact and rub together a lot, go for it"

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