What up guys, this is my first post and I am warning you. it will be long
I will try to keep it as short as possible. Pretty much, I am going to say what I did with a girl, and what the next step should be. ( need your help for that)

Been learning alot about this PUA stuff, and have been trying it out recently. I went to a club with a good buddy of mine who has some solid game, and I decided to be his wingman. We approach these two girls ( I don't know proper PUA codewords yet), start talking to them, and making jokes. At one point, we ask them, which one of them is the bossy one, and that sparked some debate between them, which allowed us to take either girl's point of view:

Me to girl1: so you're the bossy one here aren't you?
Girl1: Noooo I'm not bossy we do whatever we want.
Me to girl2: do you agree with that? I think she's your boss.
Girl2: YEAHHH she's my boss!
Me to girl1: why are you lying to me? your friend just said your the bossy one. I can't trust a girl like you. (at this point im whispering and we're leaning close to each other)

she smiles and gives me one of those "looks", and I knew I would get something from her.

So we ask them if they want to dance, they say yes. I grab girl1, my buddy grabs girl2. As we start grinding, after a few minutes, I whisper in her ear:
"Who taught you how to dance, your hockey coach?"
girl1: OMG *blushes* I'm soo sorry!
Me: I'll forgive you this time, just follow my lead.

we start dancing, then after a while I tell her again:
you must be deaf! your dancing totally off beat *push her away teasingly*
Girl1: well im the boss here, I make my own beat.
Me: Yeah, that's why you were apologizing to me 20 seconds ago.

She gives me this look of content, and I spin her around, so we're face-to-face, we do a bit of body language flirting, and start making out. Girl2 then pulls her away, and I didn't get a chance to get her #.

NOW I THINK THIS WAS BAD ON MY PART, BUT I SAW HER AGAIN LATER ON IN THE NIGHT, and I decided to take her number then (better late than never )

Anyways, now here is my texting game, I met her Tuesday, texted her Thursday morning.

I'll type everything out

Me: Hey what's up?
Girl1: Heey, sorry who is this?
Me: It's the cute guy _____ that proved to you that you can't dance. We met at ____ nightclub. ( I wanted to show that I was cocky & funny and I hope that pulled it off well)
Girl1:Good way to start a conversation
Me: Yeah no shit. I hate it when girls don't know how to flirt.
Girl1: Lmfao are you saying I don't know how to flirt?
Me: Yeah. You are pretty bad, but at least you're trying. I'll give you a 2+ for effort.
Girl1: Well I'm not trying so nice one
Me: Is that the best excuse you got? I honestly expected more from you.
Girl1: Lol if this is the way you try to flirt just to let you know insulting people isn't a turn on.
Me: Oh did I insult you? I had no idea. Can you please find it in that big heart of yours to forgive me?
Girl1: Nope.
Me: Are you always this difficult? How does your boyfriend put up with you?
Girl1: Not being difficult, and I don't have a boyfriend.
Me: That's probably for the best (my fav line)
Girl1: Lol your a dick.
Me: Wow that's like the biggest compliment. What you up 2?
Girl1: Lmfao.

And that was the end of it. Now I am curious.... am I doing a good job so far? I know that to get anything out of her, I will have to build a stronger relationship with her, which means I will have to text her some more. Overall, was how I texted her good? Anything I could improve on? I felt that by being an asshole to her, it would workout the best because she strikes me as the kind of girl that goes for cocky/funny assholes.
Hence why she called me a dick ^.^

Thanks alot, hope I get some good answers.
Raven

Why are you negging dude??

You're abusing your negs like no other. All she wants to do is go out and have a good time and you're teasing her for no good reason. I'm glad you made out with her, it shows you have some game, but you shouldn't have teased her for not knowing how to dance, it makes her not want to dance with you (I know this from experience. When I first started doing anything with girls, I had no clue how to grind, and if a girl would mention it, I would get majorly self conscious and generally dip out)

She straight up told you what you were doing when you texted her. You're done though, man, delete the number. The "Lmfao" at the end was directed at your inability to pick up on her cues. Get out there and try again, and remember that some of the best PUAs barely use negs at all.

Read this to work on the vibe you're giving off:
frame-control-defining-reality-and-bein ... 34530.html

The thing is.. she's one of those girls who thinks she's all that, so telling her that she can't dance sort of worked in my favour, it allowed me to take the lead, etc.

I hate this texting bs, because I always end up messing it up. I'm gonna try texting her tomorrow, and see how it goes... was thinking of being a slightly nicer guy and getting to know her better. Starting with a funny opener or something.
Thanks for shedding new light on the lmfao. I thought it was in regards to the first part of my message. I guess only tomorrow will tell how I'm doing.

P.S. This is my first "pick-up" so I don't want to get rid of the number so easily

any tips on the texting game??

The "i dont want to lose her because she is my first pick-up" thing will make u desperate and it will come out in your behaviour somehow.. be ready to lose her.. it doesnot matter.. and dont rely much on texting.. call her and try arranging for a meet up.. and escalate and close.. i wish u luck..

What are you doing?

Your text game is as awful as your normal game is good.

Don't start shooting negs every line. Makes you look like an insensitive prick.

And no one wants to talk to a prick.

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Heres how I run my NEGS ;

Only NEG within the first 1-3 minutes of meeting the girl and no more than 3 negs. And if the girls attracted to you already (which she obviously is) YOU DON'T NEED TO NEG unless its once in a while, perfect timing and you both get a laugh out of it. You took the negs too far i mean the first one was okay enough but you went too hard.

Was reading the link SlipnSlide posted above on negging, and it sort of made sense to me. Now that I think about it, I am being a prick to this girl for no apparent reason.
I believe the main reason why my texting is so awful is because I am getting advice from a friend for it. It just doesn't sound like me, and I was just reading about developing your own game. king0s, I will definitely give that girl a call tomorrow and see how that turns out. I have a feeling it will be better, will be kind of hard since she already sort of hates me hahah

Thanks for the feedback Don. "no one wants to talk to a prick". It actually makes alot of sense

Blaq... can you tell me which negs you are referrnig about? Which was the first one?
the 1 - 3 negs per first 3 minutes sounds like a very good measurement to play it safe.

LOTS OF THINKING ABOUT MY GAME TONIGHT, will be lacking sleep

Honestly, I do not agree with Slip n Slide. I have to say you DO need to learn how to calibrate, but it was great start up. Now, you should have noticed something: if you get two "1 word replies", or some sort of a straight forward answer, make sure you calibrate so you do NOT get a 3rd answer like that or you will automatically show too much interest by trying to get her to talk... in your case: It was so well played up to here that I was like "this is what im talking about... sounds just like something I would say!"... but then... I got to say you disappointed me. Im gonna pretend I was you and plug what my answers would be to some of her comments:

Girl1: Lmfao are you saying I don't know how to flirt?
Me: oh nooo, not at all... im just giving you heads up in case one day you start wondering "Why does this guy hates me so bad!"
(I think you were a bit too aggressive on your response... calibrate!)
Girl1: Well I'm not trying so nice one
Me: no problem, I will give you a second shot at it ... try flirting now ... FAST! The clock is ticking!
Girl1: Lol if this is the way you try to flirt just to let you know insulting people isn't a turn on.
Me: Oh did I insult you? I had no idea. Can you please find it in that big heart of yours to forgive me? (Good calibration, you decided not to "attack"... great!)
Girl1: Nope.
Me: Are you always this difficult? How does your boyfriend put up with you?
Girl1: Not being difficult and I don't have a boyfriend.
I personally would not mention the boyfriend. Actually I thought this was kind of AFC ... I bet you she automatically thought "what a typical way of finding if I have a bf!"
Me: Damn, if this is you not being difficult, I imagine when you are... no wonder you dont have a boyfriend
Girl1: Lol your a dick.
Me: "Lol if this is the way you try to flirt just to let you know insulting people isn't a turn on." ... OMG, did you put a spell on me?! im starting to sound just like you!

and i would develop from there with NO "what you up to?". This is the question girls hate the MOST! You are putting her on the spot with this question! Girls automatically think you are going to invite her for something, so 90% of the times she will give you an excuse, because if she say "not much", there is a chance you invite for something she doesnt want to do and then she feels she is screwed cause she just told you she had no plans and now she has to think of an excuse (and believe me, they hate that shit!). Also, 70% of the times, they dont want to tell a guy what they are realy up to, therefore they have to think of an excuse, and again... THEY HATE THAT SHIT! Instead, tell her what YOU are up to and suggest she tags along. At least you are making her job easier in case she has to make up an excuse. Besides, you show that you are not dependent on her. Say it in a way that you are "inviting" cause you know her life is boring and you are just looking up for her.

Im not saying that other methods do not work or taking credit out of other methods, but reality is, my style is very sarcastic cocky/asshole funny and i find it very proficient! BUT KEEP IN MIND... CALLIBRATE, CALLIBRATE, CALLIBRATE

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Up to there was okay with negging. I wouldn't of said "No shit" thats kind of harsh. Remember if your gonna neg a girl you want to be as light hearted as possible and not come off as a jerk. Had you left out the no shit then I think the "Yea you are pretty bad" line would of worked a lot better. For me I would of said something like "Hmm...well... lets just say I've come across a lot of better flirters but at least your trying. +2 for effort! " That makes it so your not directly attacking her and your not straight up saying she doesn't know how to flirt, which wouldnt of been such a hard neg. Had you pulled what you said off the convo could of gone differently but i know exactly what u were thinking, I used to go too hard on the negs too but once u learn how to control it you'll do wonders.

wow man. That was exactly the kind of answer that I was looking for. It's amazing how you take all of her insults and make a joke out of them, I clearly have alot more to learn haha

I agree the whole "Yeah No Shit" was very harsh, but the reality is that I don't want to come off as a nice guy (although I'm pretty sure I did a good job at the club) so I tend to be a little meaner than usual. If she knew my personality, she would know I am a very nice guy to hang around, and I am being sarcastic when saying that, but hey.... everything can be mis-interpreted over texts

I am planning on texting her 2day ( last time we talked was Thursday, today is Saturday) be a funny guy, and try to neg only once or twice. maybe get to know her a little better, than MAYBE call her after a few days or just keep slowly building attraction until we hang out.

Dude, you will get there, im pretty sure. I used to make the same mistakes and than i learned how to calibrate, be less aggressive, play more with her words. As soon as you reflect about your game, you look back and you analyze what was good and what wasnt, and you imagine yourself again on that same situation and you think about what you should have said instead, your will evolve and get better at callibrating.
Im gonna give you a piece of advice. Focus more on funny than cocky. Meaning, its better to sound funny than cocky, even if you are an asshole. Actually, if you come out as an "asshole", you target will take most of the cocky funny as just being cocky, so make it obvious you are being "sacastic", that you are just having fun.
What ppl dont see about being cocky funny/ assholes is that this is a great way of building confort. Keep this in mind: YOU WANT HER TO BE AN ASSHOLE TO YOU TOO... so use her words to show her she is as much of an ass as you are, just like i showed you on my response to her last comment "lol your a dick". My answer was to show her that we were not much different, that she likes to be an ass too. Its frame control dude. If you shower she is an asshole too, she will believe it! Make her confortable being an ass to you, and that will alow you to be an ass to her. True is, no1 likes assholes, but every1 likes to be one... and you have to become the guy who doesnt mind her being an ass because you got an answer for it. She will feel so much confort with that it will feel like she as a connection with you for months!
Let me tell you... most of my girlfriends, they call for their best girlfriend as "biatch", "slut", "fatass", etc... but they only accept this from their best friend AND ONLY FROM GIRLS! If a guy or a girl they dont have a connection with call them that, they wont like it very much. Guess what ... most of my targets, within a couple days, im calling them "players", "biatches", etc... because i i build confort in a way that they are allowed to call me all that too!

Idk what material you have been studing, but something that realy opened my mind in cocky funny was David DeAngelo material on cocky funny. Look for it or if you dont find it i will find a way of getting you some stuff.

Keep it up kid, you will get there!

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But how does that work? What does that do?
You're SPAM your power because she can insult you just as much, if not more, than what you are insulting her with.
Shouldn't you think that you are 100x better than them? Therefore, they should just take it since it's part of your personality?
Has it worked out with you and those girls that have talked to you the same way that you have talked to them?
What kind of personality do YOU have?

I agree with the being more funny than cocky part.
I am still trying to understand all this stuff, trying to match it to my personality. But at this point, only time will tell

Brian Bond had some good points, and I do appreciate his style but it relies on him making the insults into a GAME. If telling her off (and her returning it) becomes a cute thing you do to each other, I agree that it builds comfort.
Wrong. You're demonstrating your value by showing that they can't affect you. Her insults are brushed off as jokes because in your frame, they ARE just jokes. You're all about having fun, and if she shit tests you, make it clear that she remains within your frame of playful teasing when she does so.

Will have to try it out next time I go clubbing