Seems to me like you are just killing attraction when you give her a neg.

You are probably negging too hard. Don't insult women.

I dont use negs at all, for me to use a neg I would have to think the woman has a higher social value then me, witch she dosent...

I come from a male dominant society were woman know their place and this type of mentality has kept me from thinking woman are somehow greater then me.

wooo boys, calm down!

'I come from a male dominant society were woman know their place' that all sounds a bit misogynistic to me. .

basically, negging is used normally early on in the conversation, if your trying to attract a girl that may be very hot or very desirable. Its used to show that you can either momentarily disqualify yourself, or take her down a level by using a comment that isnt insulting but makes her question herself or whether you fancy her.

ergo, a really hot girl is used to people doing what she says, openly fancying her etc, and a neg helps you show that you are different and won't eat out of the palm of her hand, and lap up everything she says!

You see thats the problem right there, why would you put yourself in the mindset that you somehow have a lower social value then her?

I find it extremely hilarious that you guys have to neg the girl down to your level.

Heheh, this is getting interesting.

I dont use negging either. I can see your point pelopota. However, i wont tolerate inapproriate behaviour either. For example, when i am friendly and polite, i do not accept a bitch answer. I will bust them on it. You know, i am not a dog you can force to stop barking.

And then the next question would be: is this then really negging?

Interesting point: basically, you are saying that if you feel the need to neg, you are actually showing your discomfort around that person, that is, if you start it. When i think of it, i agree to a certain point.

However, i like busting people verbally. Its fun. I challenge them (all of them, men and women) to do the same to me. Bust me when i am doing something stupid. Would this then be considered negging?

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Like the naked leads the blind.
I know I'm selfish, I'm unkind.
Sucker love I always find,
Someone to bruise and leave behind.
placebo - every me, every you

The problem isn't our prespective on her, it's her own prespective on herself.

If she's a girl with guys basicly trying to jump on her back every 20 seconds she'll feel like she's on top of the world, and she'll feel that until that is proven wrong, every guy does eat out of her hand because her looks and social status.

Negs aren't for our mind, but for theirs

When someone starts becoming hostile towards me, the more humble I get...

They expect me to treat them bad because they are treating me bad so this behavior really annoys them and I guess it can be called a neg on its on because they usually stop being bitchy the moment I do it.

The purpose of neg hits is mainly to separate yourself from all the other guys who have told a 8/9/10 (these are the only girls it should be used on, sixes and sevens can't really take it) the same things over and over again, e.g. "You look so beautiful" etc. Neg hits are just qualifiers in essence.

I think of negs as a disqualifier the help ease ASD, when your at a bar running night game a girl is more likely to have her protection sheild (i think of this as a form of ASD in its self) so you use negs/disqualifiers to ease her ASD and get her invested, I tend to neg when i escalate that or not look at her or occupy her mind with something non sexual or think of an excuse to touch her but if you getting alot of IOI's you probably don't need to neg at all just go A3 and escalate

Hehehe, with all do respect amigo, but i have no single clue about what you are talking here... please elaborate

cheers!

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"Stop being a fucking vagina and escalate" - CaptainJackHarkness

Like the naked leads the blind.
I know I'm selfish, I'm unkind.
Sucker love I always find,
Someone to bruise and leave behind.
placebo - every me, every you

ok so ASD is anti slut defense, when you escalate too fast or do something that makes a girl feel slutty her ASD will be triggered, you approach a girl at a bar, she knows why you are talking to her it does not matter if you go direct or indirect, she is more then likely going to assume you want to have sex with her and she will have her sheild up, you neg her to disqualify yourself as to say hey im not hitting on you.... yet, then you wait for her to open up, then you start hitting on her with what ever style you take, but things such as escalation tend to trigger ASD for example you put your arm around a girl and say your so hot, she might say ''thats creepy'' or some other bit of ASD or give you shit or w/e, things such as looking away followed by roll offs or using disqualifiers during escalation help you avoid ASD (for example put arm around girl and say I usually charge girls $5 to touch me (disqualifier) but your a cutie so you can touch for free) , it is also how push and pull works, you throw something then take it away, for example, ''close your eyes, good, now take off your pants... wait no don't do that (using a playfull joking frame etc) what ever your style is you need to find ways to continue building sexual tension/pumping buying temp while not triggering ASD so you can pull her home (if in bar) or seduce her (if she is allready at your place or in isolation) all the DHV's etc are just ways to set a prize frame for the girl so it is socially acceptable for her to sleep with you (what does she tell her friends she met some random nobody guy and banged him, or I met this amazing guy all these girls were all over him he was so funny etc. dhv dhv dhv)

The purpose of neg is get her off her pedestal. You only do it to 10's that have a self-image they're superior to you.
A neg is just a badly done compliment, something like: "Nice nails, are they real?". You wanted to compliment the nails, but you got it wrong.
Once she says it's fake to it you just say "Oh... they look good anyway.".

Don't use negs if you're not gaming super-models! And especially don't use negs if don't know how to use it. If you insult her it's game over!

Instead of negging try TEASING which is just being playful and having fun. This should sub-communicate you're not phased by her looks. It has the same effect without looking like a creep.

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'Does she grab your hand?' F*ck you! I want to grab her mind. If I can
grab her mind, she'll be grabbing whatever I want, any way I want her to." - Ross Jeffries

Yeah this.


The objective is just to simply show that you are not intimidated by her beauty and that aren't going to be some servitile little bitch boy just because she is good looking.

Any time you try to "neg" someone you run the risk of hurting their feelings or just looking like an obnoxious dick. i suppose a perfectly timing, calibrated and exicuted neg might help in a few very specific intances but very few people are going to be able to pull off that feat.

The payoff and benifit is probably really low and the risk is definately very high.

As long as you are not intimidated by her beauty or her status and as long as you act as if you are of equal quality and status as her, you shouldn't ever have to neg.

If you ARE intimidated by her and you do not feel or as as if you are of equal status and you try to neg her, 99% of the time you will end up looking like a pathetic, obnoxious, bitter jerk.