hey guys i was just wondering if you have any experience with this guy or have heard if his teachings are any good. cheers

I really like his idea of profiling girls into certain categories. (pandoras box)

But he seems to be quite unpopular with his dodgey payment contracts and stuff. :S

oh okay sweeet. I'm not too bothered by the payment just wondering if it would be worth my while going through his stuff.. thanks for input (: if other people that would like to add to this it would be great (:

I think his 30 page kino escalation ladder ebook is definitely worth a read. As an rAFC, I thought it explained the importance of kino and how to go about implementing it in an extremely clear and easy to understand way.

I don't! I actually got the first week of that product and cancelled the rest. It was WAY too much complicated stuff that will only get guys too in their head, and too focused on what she's thinking and how she's reacting, instead of worrying about just being congruent and confident in themselves. A woman should mould her personality to YOU, not the other way around! I don't really believe in "types," every woman is fundamentally different, but at the same time most of them can be "gamed" in pretty much the same way. Psychological typing is interesting to talk about, but I don't think it could actually help your game.

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Objection game and dicarlo escalation ladder were usefull

Not a too big fan of pandora box for followign reasons:
1: It takes alot of time and practise to classify the girls
2: Once you can do it without problems, it takes even more time to remember how to approach, act etc.

Pandora box DOES work however. Everytime I kclosed a girl, I checked out her personality, looked up how to treat her and act with her, and everytime it basicly said what I did.
It does work, but the time u spend in learning it is not worth it imo.

I'll read noflakes today or tomorrow for you and say wether its usefull.
Won't read attraction code, too much pages
And conversation cure was kindda usefull, but I didn't manage beyond part 3 because every part lasts 1,5 hour. And it was pretty boring watching the AFC guys play.

But doesn't it help with calibration?

Pandora is GOOD but complicated and advanced stuff. I decided not to think about it for at least a year, once you become good you can use that to get better. But the basic idea of going into a set knowing first what type of girl the target is - is important.

For now just concentrate on these two types - "Party Girl" vs "Not a Party Girl"

You can see who is a party girl easily... drinking, texting, orbiters, the way she dresses - to these girls go with high energy and fun easy material, jokes and high fives, escalate kino quickly. Don't do an opinion opener on a party girl. And if you wait with the kino too long, she must think you're a loser and blow you off.

With the others use the more serious material and slower kino. That's just basic calibration.

When you get a 2nd day date read Pandora over and try to find what type of girl she is (assuming you already talked with the girl and know her) and use that to calibrate your personality and mirror what she is looking for.

Everything by DiCarlo EXCEPT Pandora's Box (which is fucking retarded) is pretty good.

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I don't know anything else of his but the escalation ladder but I think the ladder is GOLD.

In fact IMHO, I think as long as you can walk up to women and introduce yourself to them, maintain eye contact and maintain some semblence of a conversation, as long as you can apply the escalation ladder - you will fuck chicks.

Maybe not all of them all of the time but I think learning how to apply the ladder without coming across as a grabber is one of the most important things you can learn from the community.