This part of my game is just killing me, I spend all my nights rolling around in bed, pondering on why I cannot deal with this simple problem only I seem to have.

I cannot for the life of me set up Day 2s, or more specifically, create enough attraction to get a woman on a Day 2 with me. What happens is that I start talking to her and either two things happen.

I can try to have a real conversation and every woman I talk to will just straight up stop talking to me. Leave me hanging on a facebook chat/message/wall post, make an excuse on the phone to hang up, won't respond to texts anymore, won't respond to email.

I've now become so afraid of this that I'll have hit and run conversations with women now. I'll just directly state what I want. Make a quick opening joke and then let me know I'm going somewhere and she can tag along. Again, I'm finding women just say they are busy, not enough interest.

It does not matter who the woman is. She can be a cold approach number, social circle target, even my female friends. All women do this to me. I cannot even get past saying hi to women anymore without suddenly having them not responding to anything I say anymore.

I tried to rationalize that it's because I must be showing too much interest too early. So I tested it on social circle friends. 3 different girls I'm friends with gave me this exact same SPAM.

April: Hey, long time no see
Woman: Hey April, how have you been?
April: (I tell them what I've been up to, ask them how they have been)

At this point, 50% of women I talk to will never respond again. I haven't even tried to game her and I'm already being ignored. She will not respond again unless I opener her again.

Woman: I've been great, bla bla bla
April: (I either continue the conversation at this point or lately, just straight up tell her I'm going out, and she should tag along)

At this point, 40% of women I talk to will never respond again. Also, she will not contact me ever again unless I open again.

10% of women will agree to meet up, of course, it's usually women with no interest in me (they have a boyfriend or we are best friends).

I just don't understand why no matter how a woman sees me, I've always been treated like this. I have no idea what in the world I'm doing wrong. I can't even begin the seduction process because women won't even conversate with me past "hi" and "how are you doing". I've tried being funny as well, no dice. I'm not good with humor, most of the time I don't get a response to the humor opener or humor attempt after opening.

Detailed advice from number to Day 2 would be helpful.

The conversation isn't interesting enough. They've been asked a hundred times by previous boyfriends how they were. By doing what they did, you are lowering yourself to her exes' levels.

"How to ask a girl out" guide, quoted from seduction-chronicles.net because I am lazy to reword the same thing there:

^ That's exactly what I do.

Except I don't even have time to do it because after hi, they don't respond.

I'm done what that article suggests as an opener and also after some conversation and I always get "I'm busy".

Only close friends will agree to hang out, and only close friends who aren't interested in me (because they have a boyfriend or I'm in the friends zone).

Happened again today. Contacted a friend from college.

Me: Hey
Her: Hi!
Me: How have you been, I haven't seen you in quite the while.

Never responded back, it's been days. She's on facebook like 4 hours a day.

It hurts so much to be this pathetic to women that basic politeness doesn't even apply anymore.

Dear april6e,

many thanks for this topic. I would like to inform you that this is a way to more success with girls. But I am afraid that you want too quick too much. It is not possible to become a successful seducer interior a few days.

It costs many effort,practise and experience to become a good seducer.

Just a note to say that a waekness could be that you are not in touch with your sexual feelings.

Looking forward to hear from you

Did84

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This doesn't sound quite well man...

Seriously, you just asked her how have you been and she didn't even bother responding back? Do you mind me askin where are u from?

May b you need to run a routine right off the bat! I mean, when you say how you been may be they you send off weird signals to them or something.. then may be something is wrong with that specific opening part and you might need to alter it.

did you read/watch anything about daygame?

I go to college in Indiana. I don't know how polite people there are supposed to be but they definitely are way more friendly than people from Seattle which is where I'm from.

I always get this response from women, I've accepted it my whole life, but now, it really is personally causing me great emotional pain that women treat me like this just because I can't make their panties wet in 10 seconds. I've tried almost every different solution I could try.

Hit and run (I just say hi and then state what I want, this is what I currently do, because if I talk any longer to women, they never respond back), opening with a routine (they just don't respond), I've tried to have a normal conversation (they just stop talking to me randomly in the middle of the conversation or say they are busy and have to leave), baiting them with an open loop (they usually don't respond), and more.

And these aren't just HB 9 and 10s doing this to me. Just about every woman does this to me. Cold approach, social circle, or close friends. Only certain close friends (3 women) will even treat me like a human any more. They all are women who I'm in the friends zone with, who have boyfriends.

I thought that I'm being treated like this because I'm ugly, or I'm not creating enough attraction, or I'm being too needy. But this isn't true. I'm a decent looking dude. I've completely stopped being needy now, I use the same tactics all of you use to get Day 2s. And it can't be attraction problems because even close female friends do this to me as well, not just seduction targets.

To answer your other question, I only do Day Game, so I've read just about every major seduction literature on it, and combed all the major seduction forums for any tips. I also lately have been watching day game footage from the pros.

I use a custom version of Jeremy Soul's Direct Day Game and Bond_007 attraction opener. I pretty much directly come up to a woman, tell her I find her cute, and then back off to indirect and act like I never said that and continue with indirect and hope she chases. I've had some positive interactions but no successes yet. Always "I have a boyfriend" or "I have to go" is the common excuse women use.

Thanks did84, I realize I need to be more patient in terms of my progress. This topic is more about a problem I've had with women my whole life that I need to fix or my confidence will never recover. This problem has already left me very depressed, I tried to sarge today but I just wanted to give up and go back to being pathetic because I can't deal with being treated like this by women any more.