When you say "stick to the plan" - what do you mean? MM? Gunwitch? Swinggcat? TD? New TD (RSD) ? There are so many conflicting "plans" out there, everybody is saying something else, I just wonder what you mean.

I think he means that I probably know a bit about PUA, and if I have previously choosen the MM for example, i should stick to the MM.

I will try to gain more prizabillity. But one question first. Does prizabillity automatically create attraction, or does it just create a "need" to be with me, which i then have to turn into attraction?

Ohhh shit he has oneitis!

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Dear Dia Zepa,

love is never a compulsion. Your message appears to be written with overwehlming feelings. Are you in touch with your feelings in a normal day? Is it usual for you to talk about your feelings with friends?

I wish you to have a great weekend without her

Did84

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From what I've read it seems like she's playing with you, yeah she's doing a push/pull well... Are you gonna let her do that or are you gonna call her out on her BS.
There are 2 options from where I see right now:

1. You leave her behind and fuck 10 girls (but you said you don't wanna do that so...)
2. Tell her what you feel for her, let your heart out and do that when she's least expecting it, that way you get an instant yes/no answer and you'll instantly know where are you at.

If she sais yes, well good for you... If she sais no, well you give it your best shot now you can sleep calm at night it's better to know now, than to let her play you out and then telling you to fuck off.

Just remember girls don't want an instant decisions so when you'll ask her, she'll be under preassure and she'll probably'll try to get away with it, by saying something like "I need to sleep this one over" or "I'm not sure right now." Don't let her do that, if you like someone you know that right away, you don't need to sleep over the damn thing

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How my life looks like right now: STUDY HARD, PARTY HARD

You don't have to start banging every living woman in order to move on, which is what I think you should do. All you need to do is go out and have fun. Watch a football game with friends, see a movie, hell invite a couple buddies over and play Call of Duty for 6 hours, whatever. The point is that you need to remind yourself that you are completely capable of enjoying life without this one girl. Once you remember that and really start to believe it, then you can look at her or any other woman as a way to simply make it a bit better. If you believe that you aren't going to be happy or fulfilled as a human being without a girl you are doomed. A while back I thought that way and it was not fun.

Congrats, you fell for it. hook line and sinker.

This girl is not emotionally available. Her head is still stuck up the ass of this other guy and she is USING you as a distraction. She may fuck you, but she will be thinking of him the whole time and regret it after. So much so she will probably never talk to you again.

This can be fun (*raises hand*) but it will suck ass after because you've attached yourself to her emotionally. It will hurt like hell and you be scarred by it.

If I were you, i would 1000000% drop any idea of turning this girl into a GF at this point.

Best approach would be to put HER in the friend zone and use a back door approach to a fuck buddy. Realize that until she gets UNstuck from this loser "who doesnt want her" (READ THAT AGAIN) you have no chance.

This girl wants a guy who DOESNT want her. You want her... do the math. Don't hang around for her, she will just use you. Make her work for you, make her feel like you know she is desperate and it's pathetic and in the meantime...


FUCK 10 OTHER GIRLS.

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The fuck is this backdoor aproach you speak of?

AWESOME THREAD!

I have to admit, I am in this situation now...I am not that desperate, I am not that needy, but this chick is on my mind 24/7, like, I want her to have my children, but she is cold, and I know it...She is the reason I got into the game...Some of my first posts on this site were about her, but listen: One thing that popped out of this thread, that I already know, but reassures me:

- Not emotionally available

Also:

She is definitively push pulling - these types of women are just mean dude.

Ok. so I am in a little different situation, we went to school together, and now we are working together at the same company...Im a contractor and have my own company on the side, she looks up to me as a person of power, above her, she shows me IOI saying shit like she wants to work for me, and asking me dumb question she knows...But dude, she knows, KNOWS, she is messing with me, and a mutual 3rd party friend whos talked to her about it says the same thing, she says nothing is going on. BULLSHIT.

I'm with kupid on this one....I say, fuck 10 chicks, your doing nothing torturing and putting pressure on yourself with this chick...and man, I know how you feel...I really do...

Psych3r is awesome, I am going to randomly ask her whats up between us at lunch one day, next week so I can read the replys from this, then right as shit gets heavy, LGBF her...I want to know what this backdoor approach is.

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Good luck, havoc!

Okay, so this bitch is not to be trusted. Me and her smoked weed the day before i made this thread, and people are very judging when it comes to weed - so i asked her please not to tell anyone, and at least not this one dude. Guess who she told?

Frankly, I dont give a shit about the dude knowing, is there any abuse potential of her breaking this promise of silence, even though its just a matter of principles?

Dont judge me for doing weed please.

EDIT: The dude is btw some guy she used to date and compliments on the whole time and tells me like "HOLY SHIT LAST NIGHT I HAD A DREAM OF ME AND THE DUDE BEING HERE", and she told me she felt mean for stopping the communication between them.

I was trying to save words, but I'll elaborate. I consider this the old hang out with them often, but treat them like a little sister routine. When they whine about their exes and retarded girl problems just laugh at them and call it cute. When they ask you to go shopping say "that sounds boring as hell, lets go cart instead". when you are with them talk about sex constantly, but never with them in the equation. Display tons of mochismo, but don't cram it down their throats, sugar coat it with light humor.

If you start to see IOI's and reciprocation, play cool amp it up slightly and then continue. Eventually when you know its pretty close to a done deal, just joke about how much you miss having a good fuck buddy. Talk about how much fun it can be, and how you hate it when people ruin it by getting feelings or telling people about it and causing drama. Make it clear that you a perfectly safe option for that.

If she doesn't make the first move for you, just start doing Sixty's stuff at that point. Sexy gazing in between funny moments, then shake it off. When she says things like "whats was that??" respond with "what was what??" and do it again. Eventually she will start to make jokes back that include you and her in sexual situations. Once that happens it's in the bag, just go for it.

If you hit LMR, DON'T appologize ever, just be cool and say "couldn't help it, I was really curious", or "damn, all your jokes are turning me on, what did you expect?". if you keep a "yeah I'm going to fuck you eventually, but not till the time is right" attitude they will just about always cave eventually.

I call this the back door approach, because it's game, but it's more indirect. It's like a side project. I will never use this approach on my primary target, it just leads to oneitis. However, if you are out gaming girls all the time, it just increases your chances with a side project because it gives you endless material to joke with her about. Like how "stupid" some girls can be, or how "bitchy/fake" they are to get guys. Just never talk about girls insecurities directly or they will always get insecure around you. They need to feel it's not that obvious to you or you are no longer safe.

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dont contact her in anyway for 3 weeks---if she hasnt contacted u in that time then send hows it going text to her nothing more.

when she asks where uve been--u say '' i have a decision to make and needed some space to myself''
she'll ask what it was
u say well---my ex girlfriend got in touch with me and wants to give us another try--[IF U dont have one just lie and invent one ]we had mostly great times together but im really not one to ever go back--but in this case i dont know--i might break my own rule
she'll ask what did u say to her
u say nothing as yet--im still thinking it over---and then do ur gotta go routine

this will get her inner im gonna steal the boyfriend inner bitch aroused and u will find it hard to get rid of her even though at first she'll do her couldnt care less act

be warned i did this on a serial flaker who really had no interest in me---all of a sudden she became my needy stalker--

So im trying out this backdoor thing, and I will give you guys the result! Anyone have any tips for me? Attitude? What setting to keep when texting her?

ALso my friend might have fucked it all up, because he took my fucking phone while drunk and replied to her with it
Her: You're just a willy! haha ;P
Douchebag friend: Come here and you'll get willy!
Her: Prince charming

What the fucking fuck

get rid of both these people from your life u dont need either and they are stunting your development

Yeah, now just eject, and give that "friend" the finger. Screw him, I had a friend F-close a target once, and it took every ounce of my will power not to beat the shit out of him...Told him to F off and deleted him off facebook. You dont need that man...

Surround yourself that make you feel like a million bucks, ALL the time, no more Debbie downers...

Update on mine, did the LJBF and now she is freezing ME out, hahaa! Went to the strip club last night, got 2 strippers numbers, and my wing and I walked out with more money than we walked in with, tell me how THAT happens!

"Moving on is a simple thing, but What it Leaves Behind is Hard" - Dave Mustaine

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