HOLLYWOOD WHY?!?!?



Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 7 guests
Post new topic Reply to topic   Board index » Get Into The Game: New Forum Members Start Here » PUA Lounge




Author Message
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 6:53 pm 
Offline
PUA Forum Leader
User avatar

Joined: Sun Dec 28, 2008 8:59 pm
Posts: 1929
Location: the moon
Quote:
Quote:
Does a romcom tell you directly that's the way you're supposed to behave?
No. And it doesn't have to be direct to have an impact.
Quote:
Only if you let it get through to you......
Not everyone is as aware of themselves, emotions and environment as you.
Quote:
The actual cause for people to be chodey can be found in their youth.
Absolutely, we already know that people are most influenced in their youth. Is it possible that growing up with a television set in the living room may have had ANY impact on the person's development?
The poor blame the rich for being poor.


Pointing the blame finger to anyone but yourself is an unacceptable habbit to promote on a pick-up-artist-forum.


p.s.

I'm not too proud of the first reply, you should read my second reply and tell me what you think.


Top
   
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 10:01 pm 
Offline
PUA Forum Leader
User avatar

Joined: Sun Dec 28, 2008 8:59 pm
Posts: 1929
Location: the moon
Quote:
Quote:
The poor blame the rich for being poor.
Nobody is blaming anyone. I didn't mean to offend you.
Quote:
Pointing the blame finger to anyone but yourself is an unacceptable habbit to promote on a pick-up-artist-forum.
You share your thoughts, and I share mine. That's all.
Quote:
I'm not too proud of the first reply
So why are you pointing the blame finger at me :(


I think you misinterpretted my message.

The whole reply was directed at:
Quote:
Not everyone is as aware of themselves, emotions and environment as you.
Of course, nobody has to be outside of this forum. But (and I'm sure a few will agree with this) paying attention to yourself, emotions and environment is a vital part of pick-up-artistry.
Quote:
Quote:
you should read my second reply and tell me what you think.
OK, you wrote that romcoms don't tell you directly how to behave, as an instruction manual would. And that needy people reinforce their own belief systems. Duh. .

In your 'follow-up' post you didn't take back your claims, which I disagree with. There's not much to speculate here, and this isn't a profoundly philosophical debate. I want to reemphasize:

* When a guy identifies with these films in inappropriate ways, it is a symptom of a poor belief system, or 'neediness', but these romocoms are ALSO part of the original problem.

* Of course, on some level people are always 'deciding' how to respond to stimuli. In this case, we are talking about social conditioning. But not everyone does this appropriately. In the mind of a person with an already poor belief system, these fairytale films may be more real than you can imagine.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attributio ... chology%29

"People make explanatory attributions to understand the world and seek reasons for a particular event. Explanatory attribution plays an important role in understanding what is happening around us.[3] For example, let’s say Jaimie’s car tire got punctured. Jaimie will make attributions by reasoning that it was the hole on the road that made the puncture. The tire puncture might be due to Jaimie’s bad driving habit but by making attributions to the poor road condition, Jaimie has successfully made sense of this unfortunate event. Without the attributional explanations, Jaimie will be very embarrassed and discomforted to believe that she caused the puncture."


I'm trying to highlight the second possibility: It might just be you.



Also, I'm not speaking for the whole entire gender of men. Just the few on this forum. And for those: Blaming the outside world for your behaviour leaves very little to improve on, and isn't improving why we're here?


Also, if we're speaking for the whole gender of men then this whole thread is kinda pointless since a few (mostly the once in it already) possess the knowledge and practice we get in the 'community'.


Top
   
 Post subject: Re: HOLLYWOOD WHY?!?!?
PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 2:21 am 
Offline
PUA Forum Leader
User avatar

Joined: Sun Dec 28, 2008 8:59 pm
Posts: 1929
Location: the moon
All my critique is directed at the OP's way of thinking about social conditioning (yes I know what it is).

You are critiqueing my reply, I have absolutly no problem with that. But I think your critique is based on a misunderstanding.



Quote:
Why does it seem like every romantic comedy follows the same model? Has ANYONE in real life seen it play out this way?? One big thing is...Guy/Girl are GREAT friends...then somehow it turns into them hooking up...then BAD EVENT...then IT ALL WORKS OUT...I personally feel that one of two things or going on...or both

1. There are so many guys in the friendzone who want so badly to be with their friend that watching movies based on this structure gives them hope n as such it SELLS.

2. The vast majority of guys are that big of losers, that they honestly think THAT is how it works. That you have to befriend a girl and somehow magically transition into a relationship.

In any event, I feel that a HUGE amount of guys are getting programmed into this way of thinking. To me it seems like a huge disservice to alot of men to get this type of programming THROWN in their brain. There was a study that turned out to be a happy accident. Their was a chimp (98.6?? [I know it is 98.something] the same dna as humans) who was hooked up to brain monitoring equipment. He was being watched crack a coconut. A trainer just happened to walk in and try to crack the coconut as well. When the chimp watched him, his brain activity was the same as when he attempted to crack it himself. It shows that we are sympathetic beings, and can experience the same emotions and such by watching something as actually doing it. As such, seeing this model by watching other humans ACT, we can experience the same emotions. Knowing this, watching movies where friend ->lover models are in place is in all reality programming this mindset into a huge amount of the populous.

What are all of your thoughts on this type of mass programming?? Are you for it, because it keeps you a step up in the game? or are you against it, because it gives a false model, who's outcome is the RARITY, not the rule? Are you somewhere in between??


Top
   
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic  Reply to topic  [ 18 posts ] 

All times are UTC


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  

Can we be honest?

We want your email address. Let me send you the best seduction techniques ever devised... because they are really good.
close-link