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Focusing on self help instead of sarging... .. and then looking very very weird
Back when people like Mystery and Ross Jeffries had PU in its infancy the community was a bunch of guys trying to get dates/kisses/phone numbers/lays.
At worst, they were guys who had an odd habit of wearing a funny hat, using lines they had pre-written, and some people had mild ethical concerns about talking with women just to fuck them.
The new pick up artist self help "change your world" stuff is not odd, it's FUCKING SCARY!
As a result we have guys who are having conversations that sound like the blurb of a self help course, who are in-capable of understanding any view outside that of an arrogant self enlightened seduction master. And PU instructors who slap a smile on and desperatly try and convince the world that they are a free-thinking love machine that has over-come their ego and limiting beliefs.
Previous "news specials" on pick up could at worst make PUA's look a bit odd and give away a canned routine, I dread to think what we would look like if there was a documentary on us now!
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Thinking you need to "get stuff sorted" before, you're qualified to say "Hi!" to a pretty girl.
You took up boxing to give you some more confidence in sports and also in yourself as a person.
Are you going to sit down read and write, maybe talk to some people about boxing, or turn up at the boxing club to get the training giving you confidence and giving you skill?
For alot of RAFC's it's easier to procrastinate (I'm sorry but that's what it is) with, "I'm not ready I need talk for a couple of months thinking about sarging before I have the skills to take the 5 minutes required to introduce myself to the girl sitting on the bench"
Pick up, is incredibly easy to practise, don't fool yourself.
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Don't look for a personal solution to your shitty life problems by copying a bunch of guys who are failing to deal with their own shitty life problems!
Writing or teaching people by lecturing them on defeating their ego, becoming a new person, or revealing their true self is easy to do, if you've sat on this forum long enough, as a Uni student with a very low income it has been incredibly tempting to set up a SPAM account and sell "life coaching SPAM sessions". Purely for financial gain. It's very easy to get conned in that market.
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Infact at one point I was speaking to the mods about setting up an experiment in the form of a fake "Pick, up self improvement company" to show everyone here just how easy it would be to start a pick up cult.
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On top of that 95% of the people on this forum type up huge posts not on techniques, or on insights on sarging, but instead on "higher mentalities" and preach these mentalities because THEY want to believe it and need it far more than thier audience does.
In the past year I've read as a handful guys who teach this kind of stuff on this forum get praised for being "smart guys" only to later have it become apparent that they were not the down to earth satisfied human's that they were presenting themselves as.
PUA's are not good Role-models.
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Bashing MM and then doing the same thing as MM practitioners.
MM guys were often critisised for putting on a mask. New trends in pick up are exactly the same.
You spend long sessions writing, reading and doing in-field excersises just to get yourself to believe you are a fictional character created by a basement nerd who's deluded himself into thinking he's an enlightened player and knows what succesful seducers are like.
Honestly, it's the same old shtick churned out again, a false persona to get women except this time you've committed to the role and you're beginning to trick yourself, and that's why you're creepy, and that's why you're even more fucked than you were 5 years ago when you read MM.
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A poster here called "Kasabi" once said in a heated discussion with myself "It's just talking to women, why make such a big deal out of it?" This was back when I saw a PUA experience as something life-changing that turns a man into superman.
That one line only recently started to seem very relevant to what has been going on in Pick up. Kasabi may not have meant it in the way that I am about to put it but....
That's all Pick up is, talking to women so you can make a connection and maybe recieve some affection back in return. It doesn't need to be anything more than that ^^.
CHAT
, some guys need to sort out the AFC in them before they can go out and sarge. I don't think there's anything wrong discussing some of those issues as well. Especially because most people that wander to this forum don't really look to become a PUA but to reform themselves. It's no big deal talking to girls if you have those issues sorted out or you're naturally socially savvy. For example, I've mostly met girls through my social circle, I did very little cold approaching. I've been hanging around the forum for about 7 months, and maybe a month ago I started actually cold approaching. The 6 months preceding were some sort of a preparation, sorting out stuff with myself and intensively reading. I still don't approach as much as I'd like to, I do get AA, but if I hadn't been here for the past months, I probably wouldn't do anything. So I'm grateful for some posts that are not strictly PUA, but more inner game. If people can find help, that's good.
