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PostPosted: Wed Jun 15, 2011 2:31 pm 
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They all get good results but through different means and seduction styles. Which method do you guys really subscribe to and who do you not like as much?

For me its:

Favorite

-Style: Maybe im biased here but The Game was the first pua material i was ever introduced to. He seems like he was able to really keep his personality and who he is and intertwine that into his very successful game.

-Gary Brodsky: Probablly my favorite, the guy keeps it 100% real. He thinks that men need to be more masculine and not be afraid to go against the grain sometimes. At the same time he is able to do this in a very respectful way towards women.

-David DeAngelo: Cocky/funny was where I personally really started seeing results. Girls absolutely eat that stuff up. I know other puas say to be like this but he seems to have this as his main focus.

Least Favorite (I have a great deal of respect for these guys and the results that they get, Im just not too keen on their particular styles)

-David X: Kinda like Gary Brodsky but way more off the deep end. He focuses 100% on sex. Sure he does get it a lot but how many women did he piss off and disrespect in the process.

-Ross Jefferies: I dont really buy into the whole hipnotizing girls thing. Maybe its just because I have never really had success with it, but it just seems too forced and unnatural.

-The Pheromone Kid: He just seems like he would come off as a total creeper to most women. In the interview of him i heard, he opened girls by asking if there was a quiet corner where he could rub one out, then invites a girl he just met to watch him jack off. That just seems like it would freak out most girls out.


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 15, 2011 3:05 pm 
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i dislike every PUA who is doing or claiming :

NLP and other very manipulative stuff

having alot of threesomes ... i think those guys are really insecure .. why do you need to claim every 30 minutes you had threesomes ? Pulling ass doesn't mean i respect you....

Guys who are very dishonest ... people who are lying about their career or family.

Guys who are not thinking about certain consequences .. leaving woman emotionally hurt - leaving guys with a cheating girlfriend.


guys i do like ? i like most RSD guys like tyler , alex , ozzie, tim, jeff just because they have their shit together .. they run companies .. write books.. it's not just about picking up chicks - it's about getting a better person and people who think this way attract me.
i now find out this also influences my preselection process ... all woman i dated or hook up with are : psychologists , social workers , woman who have affinity with nature. lol

i like david deangelo alot of well because he's honest and he features insecurities on his seminar , he really got his inner game together.

in the end i like all guys who avoid the ''MPUA' label.
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-David X: Kinda like Gary Brodsky but way more off the deep end. He focuses 100% on sex. Sure he does get it a lot but how many women did he piss off and disrespect in the process.
i really don't know why you don't like david X ... look sex is just a natural and normal thing .. there is nothing wrong with it. I've scene his stuff but he actually is a honest person, very honest almost to the point where he insults people. some of his stuff is sexual but some interviews and materials are not sexual at all .. the feeling i get when i listen to david x is like im listening to the dad i never had... someone who is honest and realistic about things.

i think you shouldn't respect woman... i think you should respect people in general..... Woman get way too much respect nowadays

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Well my favorites are Tyler and David DeAngelo. Really good material in their seminars; deep inner game stuff.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 15, 2011 4:07 pm 
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Nice post lodewijk!

Your last sentence is especially true!


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2011 2:21 am 
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I never said David X wasnt honest, im just not a fan of his style. Based on what I listened to of his his sole focus is sex. Like he said something along the lines of if a chick wont fuck after 3 dates, they are dead to me. This just isnt the type of game that Im interested in running. Sure if I went a round every bar in NY at closing time and did the apocolypse opener Id definantly get laid a bunch but I feel like most people are looking for something more than that, even if they arent activley looking for "the one". Im definantly not saying that sex is a bad thing but to make that be your 100% goal does seem to be a bad thing and is certainly not what I would want my game to be like.


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favs are mystery and tyler
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i think i like them because of their nerd and shy past


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Nice post lodewijk!
Your last sentence is especially true!
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I never said David X wasnt honest, im just not a fan of his style. Based on what I listened to of his his sole focus is sex. Like he said something along the lines of if a chick wont fuck after 3 dates, they are dead to me. This just isnt the type of game that Im interested in running. Sure if I went a round every bar in NY at closing time and did the apocolypse opener Id definantly get laid a bunch but I feel like most people are looking for something more than that, even if they arent activley looking for "the one". Im definantly not saying that sex is a bad thing but to make that be your 100% goal does seem to be a bad thing and is certainly not what I would want my game to be like.
if a girl does not want to have sex after 3 dates she isn't attracted .. it is that simple. Girls who are really attracted to you cannot resist escalation .. and yes if a chick doesn't want to have sex after 3 days she is dead to me to , why would i date and invest in someone who isn't attracted to me ?

on the other side .. if you really meet a woman with a great personality but she is very shy (like 1 out of 1000) your better off taking some time dating her and get to know her... having too high preselection criteria can cause you to not get into a good relationship.

it can go both ways however i understand your point of view.

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Favorite:
The juggler - seems laid back and easy goign and lazy like me :D. Focus on the lazy part xD.
Style - Hes just so damn awesome.

Least favorite:

Mystery - He looks like a vulture with a hat. And he just seems like he has a void.

Carlos xumas - who the f is this guy.

Ross jeffries - creepiest muhfker on the earth. And i believe that he could only game desperate women with hairy armpits.

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if a girl does not want to have sex after 3 dates she isn't attracted
This is completely not true. I've now spoken to 3 separate women over the course of the last month who told me that, some on more than one occasion, they made a guy wait THREE MONTHS before having sex with him, despite being very much attracted to him. In all of those cases, they went on to have relationships that lasted over a year or more with him. I should point out, in all cases these are attractive, high-self esteem women with plenty of options and high-value, attractive men with plenty of sexual experience under their belt.

If a woman really values you as a potential long-term boyfriend, she will often want to hold back from having sex, not only on the first date, but for a certain period of time, to gauge exactly how invested you are in her, whether you're willing to wait, be patient, and show her you care about her.

If you do sleep with a girl on the first date, or that night, although you may have won the battle, you may unwittingly have put yourself in the category of men who she'll fuck once but be unlikely to see again. If that's what you're looking for, then great, but if you want an LTR or MLTRs, then pushing for sex on the first date is not the way to go, in my opinion.

As for David X, I've learned a lot from him and I think his core, fundamental principles about being honest and straightforward are incredibly useful - he definitely helps guys become more authentic in their interactions with women, which ends up being much more useful in the long term than most routines or tricks. His personal rule of 3 dates is his - you can still live by his essential principles and choose 5 dates, or not have any specific number in mind. The core principles - Honesty, Trust and Respect, and the two rules: (1) You're the most important person in the relationship and (2) Don't worry about what she's thinking, can still apply, and are useful for most guys in becoming more dominant, confident, and authentic.

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hanging with naturals is the best.


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Top two:
-Alex Coulson
-Sinn

They have the most simple pickup there is and what is the best it's a mixture of everything daygame, nightgame, direct, indirect...


Some more favorites:

- Whole RSD crew (stron inner game and like Lodewijkp said the got their shit together)
- Paul Janka
- 60 YOC (mad nightgame I learned a lot)
- AFC Adam (his transformation was fast, I guess he's somekind of inspiration)
- ...


Somewhere between:

- Mystery and Style (I'm not like a huge fan of them, but they gave me a good fundamentals, but I still think Mystery goes way off with his style in general)
- Mehow (he's still too scripted altough he goes a bit into natural)


I don't like:

- Ross Jeferies (I like NLP as self help, but not as "tricking" girls)
- Gambler (sorry dude, but I don't see anything natural in your method)

That's my list 8)

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GUN WITCH :D
60 Years of Challenge :D
Vin Dicarlo :D

Everyone else is meh.

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