This is so true!
Me and my good friends, we were each other's wingman. We go out 'gaming', but we NEVER open a set . We find excuses, like getting drinks first, 'we will approach after we finish this beer', 'I am not in the mood tonight to game', etc.

But now I start getting in the mood, feeling much more comfortable to open sets. Actually I made progress, by studying MM and 60 years. And more important, I am practising this in the field. My mate didn't make this progress.

Now he is actually holding me back. If I say 'let's open this set', he would say 'let's get a beer first' [AA]. Or when I open a set, he jumps in and talk bullshit.

So yes, i like to go out with friends to a club, but i prefer to sarge alone

that approach .. well ...
first week i got 2 succesfull pickups , both are daygame

girl 1 . in class just talked to her without coming of needy , i used mystery method and mystery method is all about DLVíng your target.
i didn't come off needy or anything .. just talked to her a bit ... negged her .. talked a bit .. negged her again.

i did want to get better at game , my goal was not to get in this girl her pants .. this made me less needy or creepy in general.

negged her a bit by telling her she got something weird at her nose and it doesn't look good .. total DLV... touched her 2 times .. some smooth talk again and she was attracted... did some disqualify; told her we couldnt have kids because im colorblind and she only has woman in her family , woman can't drive cars and are even more worse when they are colorblind blablabla ....

Now she was attracted i got social proof ... social proof is something i didn't realize at that time - i only read about it a few days later. but i did got social proof and HB 9 and HB 10 were just trying to talk with me out of nothing .. they sat next to me. suddenly i was a woman magnet lol .. poor me...

open .... neutral low energy
talked a bit
negged
talked a bit
negged
smooth talk .. more in depth
disqualified her as potential future girlfriend
.. could kiss close .. but at the time i couldn't isolate , i wasn't even thinking about asking her number which is a huge mistake ....

when look back .. this girl had the best personality i have even seen in a woman , if i had hooked up with her my life would be totally different... probably married .. a good job and happy.... but wel .... fuck it i choose my path - hardcore to the bone.

second girl was on the same day ... got into a relationship with her - she is the worst and most insecure person i have ever seen ... she wouldn't give her number because she was sooo shy.

anyway i was walking in the hall with a friend and and we ran into this chick .. so we got into conversation .. first i did noticed my friend was interested in her so i tried to hook them up - told them to go down the street to get something to eat DHV my friend etc. my friend was in pickup as well but wel .. he scewed up .. she wasn't attracted to him.

when they came back they both sat at my table.. so i ran some routines , palm reading. She wouldnt even give me her hand ( very ASD ) so i grabbed and read the hands of my friends. yes i know my friends so it was easy to get accurate cold readings , now i grabbed her hand - told her she got a promisisng future .. as a retard lol ... huge DLV .. my friends laughing at her ... i got social proof.

asked her for her number but she refused ... then i asked my friend his msn , now i asked the girl her msn and viola ... social compliance.
now i internet gamed her ... asked her to visit my house with a friend.. isolated her in the house played some guitar told some jokes ... and kiss closed her , she also slept at my house on the same day2.

so :

opened - non needy
threw her to my friend - DHV friend - he screwed up
Did some routines .. hand reading / cold reading
negged
asked for number. . she refused
asked friend for msn to get social compliance / social momentum
asked her msn
internet gamed her
2nd day hookup .. kiss close

look mystery method and similar methods or very easy and simple methods , however they doesn't deal with inner game or complex female psychology.
at that time mystery method was like 90 % of my game ... now mystery method is 0,5 % of my game ...
The first few months of gaming my power was simplicity.. i didn't even used proper body language .. it was open low key - don't show interest ... talk ... neg .. talk .. neg ...talk .. neg .. kino .. talk .. switch venues and move her around...getting her back to her friends and leaving the venue. i didn't knew much about female psychology .. i just believed in what i did and stuck to it.

the hardest part in clubs was isolating people...if i couldn't isolate i would bring her back to her friends (social trust ).. ask her number or facebook in front of her friends talk to her a bit to ensure attraction and leave......
the girl is attracted and i leave ... now she is receptive for a day2.... kiss closing in clubs on the spot was outside my reality - too afraid of screwing it up. in day2 i just kissed woman after 15 or 30 minutes ... easy shit since they are attracted anyway.

i always visited the girl her house first unless she lived at her parents house... girls would sleep with you at their own house because even if they need to work next day they are at home ready to start their day.

in clubs ....
open- low key non needy ... maybe opinion openers etc
talk
neg
give attention to her friends or the ugliest girl in the group.. ignore target
tell her to not to interupt conversation ... ( tease neg )
now give her attention
kino
move her around
routines , canned stuff ... drinking games or playing pool etc
isolate - moving her around different venues
number close
day 2

you don't need to disqualify her if you already switched all your attention to your friends....

this is all mystery method by the way ... nowadays im natural.. more into relationships and psychology in general. goals are relevent ... first time i gone to clubs i was shit scared .. i needed to set relevent goals like :

goal :
1. grabbing transport
2. getting some cash from SPAM
3. Scout clubs
4. Observe
5. Open
6. Conversate

the first time in a nightclub i didn't talk to anyone .. tried to open but people ignore or rejected my approach. so i just set a different goals - since my orgininal one was to pickup HB 10 lol .. new goal : to observe how people behave in this enviroments - looking how girls dance .. what other guys do to pickup chicks.
to my surpise ... some HB10s didn't got even 1 approach .. guys were just too intimidated to talk to them - i realized i wasn't the only one with anxiety and this thought comforted me.

SET RELEVANT GOALS ... i don't start my night with '' lets pickup HB10 ''.
i start my night with .. hey lets shower .. hey lets grab my bycicle... hey lets call a friend , just to prevent me getting inside my head too much. I constantly trick my brain into doing different things .. if i open a HB10 i think '' hey lets ask the time '' and when im in front of her i just throw my opener in the game.
don't approach woman by trying to use your opener .. just trick your brain into something casual and revert to your opener when are in front of her moving your mouth.

Set relevent goals .. this build momentum ... trick your brain - this decreases fear.

when it comes solo sarging with fear for this first time in night clubs - approach anxiety or social anxiety is the worst fear i have ever felt.... most of my life i only had 2 or 3 friends , i wasn't social at all ... i tried to avoid birthdays and any other social gathering .. i have even avoided my own birthday.

I do mixed martial arts .. i did boxing matches .. i did extreme sports.. i swim in lakes mid-winter .... approaching a woman is the scariest thing there is - and it still is .. because if i don't go out for 2 weeks my anxiety goes from 5 % to 100 %. you need to keep investing , you cannot take a 2 week break and expect improvement.
woman feel this fear or anxiety as well .... we are all human beings and it's ok to feel this. You do not have to have super game to game chicks ... the most important thing to do is to approach even tho you do not feel like it.
the number 1 thing holding guys back is approach anxiety
the second thing that is holding guys back is that they do not have sharp clear goals and plans - they do not know how to proceed with the pickup... they concentrate too much on the opener and suffer from the '' i ran out things to say'' syndrom.

nowadays it's all automatic pilot mode .. natural game .. i just walk to some woman , tell them they are cute and interact ... it can be that simple. i still feel approach anxiety and all that garbage but i never have to think what to say or what to do - i can read her body language , i know what she thinks before she even said it. i seldom make mistakes ...even if i make a mistake i know how to recover.

when you start out you don't have this .. you brain is not develop enough .. you need to learn and internalize all concepts about game, psychology, inner game , buddhism and awareness , relationship game. you also need to experience and apply everything you have learned ... learning isn't accumulation of knowledge .. learning is behaviour change through knowledge. if you don't apply what you have learned you worth shit .... knowledge is potential power ... knowledge applied is power.

my grammar sucks because im tired right now .. i hope it's readable.

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yeah .. i don't know why some people like to sarge with a wingman...once my wingman talks bullshit or is holding me back in any other way i feel like my night is getting destroyed. i guess some guys need the social comfort when they step into unknown enviroments....

i avoid friends and people i know in general...for me there is no reason to go out with friends .. maybe i talk a few minutes to them like '' hey how its going'' etc. but i don't include them into my sarging nights ... sarging in the same club around people i know sucks anyway - because i get social proof and Friends GFs are getting into me and all that kind of shit .. friend are getting jealous.

i don't have female friends .. i have 0 female friends .. because when i game other woman they see me do it and they get attracted .. now they are jealous - interupting my sets and mid-game. all woman are the same .. i never met a girl who didn't got jealous or whiny about it , and i never met another guy who didn't stop making excuses.

if im 1 on 1 with a woman .. i've isolated her and all that shit , if i run into people i know or friends i just talk to my friend for 5 minutes - get some social proof and leaven with the woman. i have isolated this chick with a reason ... i don't want friends to hang around being jackasses.

the only woman i do allow in my personal space are lesbians or at least woman who are bi-sexual. They don't whine or complain and they attract other woman.

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Like a few other posts here, I find this one inspiring. You seem to have built a lifestyle rather than having the goal of going out there and 'getting as much pussy as humanly possible.'

I've thought about going out alone but I am a little nervous. That's good. I've found in this game, something I read on this forum 'open or die,' and I've started opening sets by saying that in my brain...You must PUSH yourself.

I'm a novice and a newbie but when I see posts like this it really makes me wonder 'what can i become?' This isn't only about attracting women, it's building a better life.

Thanks again for the post. It's sometimes hard to weed out the genuine information from the nonsense.

For me my inner game improves dramatically if I'm out with a wingman, I don't care how sets respond to me as much because if they blow me off I can just go back and hang out with my wingman, if I'm by myself, well, I got nowhere to go. I have gotten SNL going out by myself but overall much rather have a wingman, I feel more normal.

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