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Are you aware of interacting with eye contact ? And how much do you do it in general
Im constantly working on eye contact because it improves my results  40%  [ 2 ]
Sometimes conciously but most of the time it's unconcious  40%  [ 2 ]
I know i should do it but there isn't enough available evidence on why it works  20%  [ 1 ]
I don't feel uncomfortable interacting with people i only feel uncomfortable holding eye contact even tho im not interesting  0%  [ 0 ]
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 11, 2011 1:43 pm 
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i've found out there isn't much material about eye contact ... there aren't really general rules with a scientific fundement.

Most materials on eye contact are observed by biologists and evolutionary scientists , most of their conclusions are made by observing animals. i have only found a few sources where biologists studied the contact between humans and animals.

when you hold eye contact with a human or animal - the first one to break eye contact is sending out unconciously submissive signals. I have tested this and found out it's true ... if i hold eye contact with very high status people like my doctor i am more prone to breaking eye contact first even tho i don't give a damn. I feel more loss of male masculine identity if i break eye contact with high status woman on purpose or without purpose.

the more value you designate to a living organism the higher the chance you will break of eye contact unconciously. Holding eye contact convey dominance and interest .... interesting, breaking eye contact as first would convey interest but not dominance.

In human brains certain body language or physical threats activates fear or fear of losing - thus the brain triggers a flight or fight response , interaction between dogs are the perfect example.

From a biological perspective ; holding eye contact for extended periods of time wil make the brain increase oxytocin. Oxytocin decreases negative psychological effects like anxiety and other psychological disorders.Oxytocin also increases when humans bond .... Mothers have very high Oxytocin level when nurture and interact with their children.

Interesting .... would oxytocin have a significant relationship with certain psychological phenomena ? Like the oedipus complex and so forth ? Would the increase of interaction ( eye contact ) with parents increases a childs natural way of learning body language ? One thing is for sure ... don't avoid eye contact oxytocin relieves anxiety and other ''negative'' physical responses.
I also tested this ... i've walked through the mall and tried to hold eye contact with every person i encountered , to my surprise i actually felt different . It's not like i hold eye contact for 5 or 10 seconds , i tried to hold eye contact for extended periods of time. The higher the social status or Value designated by my subjective mind to a certain person - the more confident i felt after every encounter.

If i hold eye contact with dogs they hold eye contact unless i showed of my dominance by claiming the space. When my dog or another dog is in a dominant state by letting them lead they are less able to break eye contact. If i lead and convey my dominance the dogs will break eye contact. So there seems there is a relationship between holding eye contact between humans and other animals.

It's not a random response ... 10 out of 10 times i got the same response with the same experiment Perimeters regarding humans or animals.
Humans are territorial creatures as well , alot of scientific study and real life experience proves this point.

so eye contact:

Increases certain hormones which decreases anxiety
Increases certain hormones which are needed for bonding through interaction
Conveys dominance
Conveys personality
Shows if you are interested or not interested on a subjective or unconcious level

in regard what people think in relationship to their body language.
Some people perform different types of body movement when you hold eye contact .

regarding eye movement - if i hold eye contact the other person is either:

Holding eye contact not breaking off
Holding eye contact not breaking off and smiling
Holding eye contact and breaking off first by looking in front of them
Holding eye contact for 1 or 2 seconds and breaking off first by looking at the ground.
Holding eye contact and Breaking off first by looking into the sky
Holding eye contact for some seconds and looking to some other person
Holding eye contact Breaking off first and trying to look at their phone or the person is trying to be occupied with material possesions in general.


this one is huge : Holding eye contact for 1 or 2 seconds , Breaking off first then quickly looking back and holding eye contact. - if i did this the other person immediately smiles , like they got some self esteem boost. This only happened to me when i saw / see persons which i do feel attraction towards.
If the other person performed this action i could feel they were attracted and interested in me - not concious but on a unconcious level as well. I immediately felt the need to approach these people even tho i had more anxiety than normal
. ( the break in eye contact could interrupt with the increase of oxytosin )
We all can agree to a certain degree that if the person is breaking eye contact first while you are holding they are signalling submissive signals.
Some maried woman stared me to death lol , however i did not break eye contact.

Other specific details to me include to use of verbal greetings and vocal cords.When 2 people are holding eye contact you can either escalate the tension or release it by giving a indicator if interest - a polite way of greeting is a good way.
hi .. how are you ... hello .. good morning .. and so forth.

what i've noticed is that the first person to engage eye contact and verbal interaction conveys dominance. When i said hello with the right ''alpha'' vocal tone to people i got way more positive respons and compliance. The minute you decide to let the woman lead you have less value ...in some cases they instantly break off eye contact - probably because you send the body signals of a dominant personality but you don't lead by escalating.
it's like showing off your bank account without there being real money on it.

When i hold eye contact and initiate verbal interaction i could see the person walking toward ( or next to me ) slowing down. Not using verbal interaction did not had much effect on the amount of body movement. You already are opening and conveying your personality by all these feats and factors - your opening line doesn't say shit. The way how you do it and what you do prior to engaging a conversation is 10 times more important.

When the other person is initiating verbal interaction you shouldn't copy the same word or vocal tone ... using the same words and vocal tones defenitly decreases attraction and value. A woman leading interactions is not that bad ... what does matter is the way you allow the woman to lead - her leading could be a shit test as well, in this case you shouldn't be complying - show no compliance to this behaviour.

Mirroring body language of flinching/fidgeting is a killer as well.. you are better off doing nothing except holding eye contact and leading by initiating the interactions.

So what the hell is this post about .... yes i got some questions...

What is your experience with body language ?
im not asking about what you have read in a book , im asking what you have experienced and how you felt about it -
1. Which physical reactions did it trigger in you
2. How did it affected you self esteem or confidence

How did holding eye contact or similar structures effected you succes and dominance in interactions ?
Ignoring eye contact - pretending like you aren't interested worked in some cases , it also worked for me. However i got way more results with holding eye contact , maybe insecure people are just too intimidated by too much eye contact and too much confidence. What is the succes ratio between holding eye contact and ignoring eye contact.

How did breaking off eye contact affected your results in regarding social interactions ?
when you break off eye contact first , - did you feel any change in the energy of the interaction , did it feel like the person has some power over you ?

How do you interact with your parents and girlfriend when it comes to eye contact ?
How do you interact with co-workers and superiors ( on work ).


How do you feel any difference in how you behave or feel when you encounter woman wearing sunglasses ( all in relationship to eye contact )
any answers are welcome... do not feel like you don't know anything about the subject because most people are not concious of their body language in general. So im asking you to become aware , any ideas are welcome.

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