Yeah problebly .. it lacks the expression of emotion. Texting is so much of a crap because of that factor. Oh well, i'll live

Thanks for the help.

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The getting-over experience

Okay, for those who have noticed.. my last posts where about this one girl who is being terrible flakey with me. The thing is I actually like her so I need to get over her.

Was like yesterday evening on FB when some girl that slept with me last year(didn't happen anything, just sleep) asked me how my "horny" problem was. Well - I said I'm horny.. apparently so was she.. so she asked if I had the time today.

The thing actually is - the girl is not really my type. She's really sweet and stuff and I can't get on the fact that I would be making advantage of her. Yeah yeah, you aren't making advantage of a girl that wants it but still.. this girl talks to me every day and is kinda clingy so I had hard times to get that over last night.

Anyways - she came over.. kisses & snuggles.. a bit of rubbing. The idea was that she would stay over but I couldn't let her. I had to wake up early and simply.. I didn't feel like letting her stay over.. so she we kissed, we touched.. got a early handjob and after that it went really fast..

I made her cum really fast, .. apparently she didn't have sex for a long time so.

I know - this isn't really my habbit - but it has helped to get over my one-itis.
Let's just hope that girl doesn't start acting up right now - that girl reffering to both of them to be honest.

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The belgian upcoming singer

Okay, it's just a bit basic but I really am in a good mood about this.

Okay so I went to a company to get a summerjob for this vacation. As a student it's kinda hard to get a good job that is well payed and also offers a lot of fun. So I searched for something that really fascinated me - a "promo" boy for a advertising company.

So when I got there, there was 1 girl standing there and I thought I recognised her from somewhere. So after a little while everybody was there and we started introducing eachother. Apperently she's this belgian singer.. 19 years old, cute as hell and a nice body. Damn awesome!

Anyways, we got to talking and stuff about the job and I noticed she was completely checking me out, her eyes were all over me constantly. Everything I made a remark that was funny, she was the first laughing. So we got talking with eachother a bit and kept smiling towards eachother, a bit under the radar.. but it was nice. I could feel the tension really easy.

So at the first break after the info session. I went to smoke a cigarette, everybody followed. And the girl came standing next to me. Started asking me questions and stuff like that.. it was obvious that she wanted to get to know me a lot better. So I playfully went along .. didn't pay all my attention to her.

At the end of the session for the job, I grabbed a piece of paper and asked everybody for their contact details so I would send them to everybody else. The girl wrote her number down too and said to text her or something. Great! This is awesome. Anyways, we had a drink afterwords, and again! she was sitting next to me.. constantly talking with eachother it felt good.

I'm gonna text her tomorrow to check up on a few things.

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You have decent stuff. Pretty cool outer game. But I couldnt read through your stuff. Not because it wasnt good. but the mindset. The first line killed me. "I'm Alpha". Alpha males, whether they know they are or not, dont see the need at the least to even address that stuff. its just their way of being. now dude, I am not in any way trying to thrash you, or attack you so I dont want you to get me wrong. Im not trying to change you either, its just a good suggestion. From my point of view, it looks like you read a book and seen a few videos at least of being ALPHA. Obviously. The thing is though, its one thing to act alpha, and another to actually be alpha. All the "yes time for SOCIAL DOMINATION, Alpha" shit, just, really isnt very alpha man. And one reason is because, if we really need to break it down on a psychological level since alpha is a mindset and being more than anything.
Theres 4 ways we learn

Unconscious Incompetence-You dont know you dont know
Conscious Incompetence-You know you dont know
*Conscious Competence-You can do it with effort, technique, work, etc.
Unconscious Competence- you've learned on an unconscious level. Automatic

you are at the one with the star. reason is, you know how to do all this alpha shit, you act alpha, cool whatever. Good thing to learn. But it hasnt become YOU yyet. This isnt a problem. This HAS TO HAPPEN with everyone trying to learn alpha. One day it'll become you, and when it does, you wont feel the need to TRY, or brag, or even feel beasty. This isnt all good, its bad too. because you become the biggest fucking pimp in the world. Possibly Non-delusionally. You have the hottest girls fuck you, everything. Yet you dont give a fuck, legitamately. Its not some false belief you installed where you say "I dont give a fuck" when inside your kinda lying to yourself. You will be there. and when you do it'll just be your state of being, not state of trying. Its not about being alpha you'll learn. Ya, that stuff is amazing and can get you laid for the rest of your life. But if you want to completely have abundance, its about combining a lot more deeper things and even techniques on an unconscious level. you may or may not be able to relate. Again, this is all out of good will. For everyone reading this rly because we've all done it and most still do.

Hello MalisVals,

Thank you for responding to my topic, it's fun to see that some people still do read it.
However - if you woulda have read them all, you would have noticed one of the following posts of me:
This answer was given to someone that made the same remark as you did.. on page 2. I know this already what you said. But thanks anyway

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Thats good to hear. It seems like we all evolve the same way when we start on the same path. Cheers.

I enjoyed reading all of this, gave me some motivation for this weekend

Good read, I subscribed to this thread.

Groetjes

Okay, not really PUA related but, I think it's a good story about reactiveness & body language where you can learn from.

So, yesterday I was stagemanager at a festival in the south side of the Netherlands. Called 7th Sunday Festival - maybe some of you went - I don't know. Anyways, on a given point at the stage an artist named "X" came on. Needless to say - the name alone has a pretty sexual vibe to it.

As a stagemanager, you cannot dance together with the music, you need to show a good posture that refers to dominance and authority. A lot of arms crossed and a waiting attitude. Well since I knew I would get responses on that from those girls, I was curious to what kind of response it would be.

At a given time in the performance of the DJ act, the "X" - which were about 25 hot girls in nice outfits - where dancing around in waterguns.. now you got technology there and that ain't nice to hang around with.. so I told them to go to the other side of the stage and play around over there. Needless to say, they were a bit unhappy, but I showed a strong sense of dominance and they HAD to listen.

At the end of the show when they needed to go off, I got an entire load of water upon myself by some of those girls.. I figured they were pissed but yeah.. who cares right? Anyways, they went down and so did I a few minutes later to get myself a towell to dry myself with. Then suddenly 2 of them girls, come to me & "hugg" me dry...

We started talking and stuff about regular things with just a clean intent of interest. I was paying a lot attention to how I interacted, rather distanced because I had a function and the girls WANTED my attention, but I couldn't give it to them. All of the sudden one asked for my cellphone number and told me to let her know something if I ever came to there again for a party or if I would come to holland to meet up some time..

A few minutes later the other one came around and sat on my lap.. just casual stuff and talking. It didn't took too long or also she asked for my number.

Yet I know, numbers don't mean a thing unless action is taken upon but I think this could be of some use to people with less body language signs. I know keeping your arms closed is mostly a bad sign for body language because it doesn't show "openess" towards women - but however - if you are in an authoritive state like I was - then.. this could be of some use.

Girls love to talk to the thing - or person - that is unavailable.

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LR: The Relationship that didn't last long

Eventually - one way or the other you get tired of constantly picking up random chicks for the fun out of it and you start looking for substance that's underneath that marvelous face or that bootilicious body. I found mine.. or atleast, I thought I did.

As some of might know I've been in a relationship for the last month.. It was kind of serious, but we both were hesitant to forsee a promising future. Regarding the fact of the relationship was relatively hard due to financial, age and transport problems, we managed to keep it for a little while.

Now inside this small response on my journal, I will describe how I got this solid girl interested in me. To be honest - I have no clue, what she saw in me in the first place because at the end we measured our different interests and they were huge... Anyways, back to the point!

So I met this girl on a night out with one of my crazy friends. We went to a beach place were to be honest, the weather wasn't too savvy. At a given time a group of 5 girls walked in - around my age.. being rather nice and interesting .. me & my friend decided to give it a go.. he would open the set, I would come in a bit later. Considering the fact that he is 45 and I'm 21.. he could be my father.. that always give a lot of funny results in the conversations.

Anyways, so we starting chatting the girls up.. askin' them some questions and eventually closed a few numbers.. nothing special.. but I was warmed. We stayed there a bit longer, met some other girls.. they asked us to come with them to a club but it didn't really grab our attention.. since it was early and the girls weren't really our target.

Then out of the sudden - one beautiful girl comes up to the bar and orders a beer. Damn.. she hooked my eyes immediatly. I told my friend I wanted to have her. Okay - so fine and well.. we got talking.. we even fought a bit in the sand and did some really close body too body touching and we got along fine.. we decided to meet up again soon..

the texting started.. we met up for a day 2. Crazy as hell again.. things went better and better, alltough the kissing didn't happend yet.. I could feel that I whatever I wanted to do, I could do. But since I wanted substance, I waited a bit more to get to know her a bit more.

So I had a booking as my artist act and asked her to come along.. she immediatly said yes. Now the strange thing is that she lives really far away and she had all expensives getting there on her account.. but - she didn't mind.. far from it. She spend the night that evening aswell..

In the beginning she was rather hesitant aswel due to the many differences (transport, age, ...) but it turned out to be rather a turn on.. for her that was. Also - dating a performer.. seems to get a lot of girls their heads turning & spinning quite fast.

Anyways - so I closed her.. full. And I have to say.. it was the best lay I ever had.
She loves being dominant in the bed, also being treated that way. Both roles apply.
TIP: a lot of girls love being dominated, as long as the pain isn't too hard, just enough to rise the sexual tension.

And since she was a dancer and she works out a lot.. she had those amazing body movements.. I can't stress enough how great it was.. I took us hours of enjoyment before we were both exhausted from pleasure.

Eventually, as every story haves.. it had an ending aswel. Reasons were the ones mentioned above and some others which are rather strange to publicly write about.

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LR: The multicultural threesome - French & British

So I've been in France for a little while and was quite having the time of my life there. Outside the fact that I was responsible for a lot of things such as camping place, clients, materials and a whole lot more.. I have had some good things.. one of them was the multicultural threesome.

Okay.. so I had this pub where we went out every evening called "Ex." Most of the people working there only work there during the summer holidays because of the tourism that provides a lot of business. One of the people that works there was called
"K." Now K, was this beautiful blonde girl, with an amazing tight body and a firm set of boobs. When looking at her, you couldn't help yourself thinking "What if I was to be with her for one night.. would that make my vacation unimaginable?"

Needless, to say.. that was what I was thinking. So we started talking, rather casual. Since I was the main responsible one for a lot of things, it was an easy hook to get the conversation going. So we started talking on a regurly basis and when meeting eachother, we gave eachother a standard kiss or 3 - that's the way we do it in Belgium.

So after a few regurly conversations the conversation steered into something like this:
Her: By the way, do you wanne go to discotheque "LP" tonight? I gotta work till 2AM but after that i'm going there.. it's the opening of the new season and every staff gets a bottle.
Me: I don't know. I'm not a staff or anything and I got my responsibilities here.
Her: You can come with me, i'll get you in And about those responsibilities, you can have some fun too right?
Me: Yeah, I can. i'll think about it. Give me your number so I text you.

Anyways - got the number.. and around 1:30 AM, I texted that I would tag along for a little while. so I went to the pub where she works around 1:50AM and we went to the discotheque on foot together.. She got me in, as she said .. even into the VIP.

Key element here: I got into the VIP because I was holding her hand, I grabbed it and when I did that.. she smiled at me while looking over her shoulder.

Anyways.. time passes rather quickly as I talk with a lot of persons of the pub "Ex." and me and K danced a bit on a sporadic time level. At a given time.. K comes up to me to ask me something:

Her: When you going back to the campsite, cause it's 4AM?
Me: *Spooks up, I didn't realise it was that late* Ooh shit, I gotta go now then. First gotta walk to Ex to get my bike and then to the campsite.
Her: Ah, if you want to, you can sleep over with me & C's place.
She can drive you to the campsite early in the morning so nobody knows you were gone.

Okay.. so that was fixed. I could sleep over with 2 girls.. the sexual tension with K was allright, now C was a bit another case.. eventually, I went over the their place holding K's hand and we did a little game - you problebly seen it in the movies already aswell.

When we arrived at the couch, I put my hand on K's face and kissed her..
Then I made a statement:
Me: Hmm.. you kiss good. I've had much worse.. only if all girls could kiss like that.

Now at that time, I knew I had C going with me cause she was sitting next to me, leaning in.. so C responds:
C: But I can.. here.. *and she kisses me*

Easy as fuck ofc.. the sexual tensions rose really fast really high.. and it didn't take long before we ended up in the bedroom fucking eachothers brains out... I do have to say:
Being blown by 2 girls .. definitly is an experience worth mentioning.

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LR: Quick delicious brunette in club

So I went out again, with one of my regular wings to a venue that we haven't been before. Since he was driving I could drink a little and just relax without being too sober. Anyways, it was a good night.. trust me!

When we arrived in the venue, I first looked a bit around to see if there was something that falls into my category of cuteness. At the first sighting, I have to admit, I only saw 2 girls that really spoke to me (not speak as in saying words.. nvdr!) Anyways.. I approached both girls with somewhat of a lazy attitude.. but it went quite well..

When I was in my second set, I look over the girls shoulder and I saw this girl and she was like - WOW. Every single cell in my entire organism spoke to my brains with one single command "Do her." Really, .. it was incredible. I immediatly broke of the contact with this girl and went to my buddy to point her out. But since she was kinda the cutest girl around - I had problems with engaging and expressing my desires towards her.

Though, within a 10 minutes time, I gathered up enough courage to say what I wanted to say and stepped over to her with the following 'opener':
Me: Hi, I know where this is going to lead. Every guy steps up to you and says he thinks your beautiful. I'm different. I'm here because I want to enjoy your body close to mine and experience the wildest night of my life. Since we're both not fans of wrapping stories around it.. I'm just telling you in advance.

The girl was shocked to hear those words coming out of my mouth. And to be honest, as was I. Anyways - back to the topic - we got talking a bit more and it escalated rather quickly. Within the next hour, I was at her home, on her coach, getting a blowjob and further on fucking her brains out.

Lesson learned:
Being sexual is good.. being creepy however is not. Express what you desire in a sexual and tasty way.

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keep it coming, gj with the brunnette and the threesome!

2x Kasey and 7 times Nancy

So as the title says: 2 times kiss close and 7 times number-close... crazy shit though! What a night

So I went out yesterday night to a local party in the neighbourhoud. I invited one of my friends that I hadn't see in a long while and we drank some beers & cola (he was designated driver) and talked a bit. Mainly about the things in our life and then we evolved to pick up rather quickly. I was talking bout the fact that I had the intention to atleast close 1 girl tonight, kasey close though... He laughed at me and said keep dreaming.

Challenge was on!

The venue
So we went to a party that was in a tent. Around 1500 people I think and a lot of girls, however many were a bit too young for me. After scouting the room for a bit, I kept standing in the back of the tent. That way I could have a clear view over the room and the girls that came in and out. Easy scoutable and easy to open them if needed.

Fangirl
All of the sudden - all out of the blue - one girl came up to me and started talking about my performance from last week. She told me she was a fan and was curious about when I would perform next. Herself I would rate a 7, and her friend a definite 9. However - I felt that gaming the 9 would be problematic since her boyfriend was there aswel and I didnt feel the urge to be a pain-in-the-ass for a night. So anyways, I laid low on her an just did a distance routine on the 7.

After some time, I just lured her with my finger gesture and she came over to talk to me a bit. Really easy chit-chat, nothing to sexual. When I was talking to her, I definitly watched how I framed my movements and just kept playing it relax. Eventually she came up to me and said she was a bit drunk. Now she clearly wasn't but she did want my attention.

So we started talking a bit and eventually she hugged me. After the hug, she kept looking at my lips and then at my eyes. Easy as hell I thought, why not.. one kiss couldn't be harmful. And so I did. A few small kisses followed later throughout the evening.

Girl 2
The next girl actually was bit harder. She remembered me also from my last performance but was a bit reluctant. I would give her an 8, damn, what a nice body she had.. face wasn't perfect but okay, definitly. So after talking to her a bit, some guys came to me and tried to block me out of the conversation by making moves on her. Rather funny because when they were touching her bottom, she was looking at me and removing the hands.

Anyways I stepped up to the girl and the conversation went something like this:

Me: So you wanne make these guys a bit jealous?
Her: Huh? What do you mean?
Me: Well, I just kiss you right here and now and they'll go.
Her: *After 5 seconds of thinking* Sure, but not here.. let's go outside.

So we went outside, at a given point I took her arm, spinned her to my body and closed her.

If I hadn't have to go home, I would have done her on the motorhead of my friends car.. but he was a bit pushy about us leaving. Too bad, but she is interested in being FB's.. which is good!

Good points of tonight
- Physical escalation
- Direct intention
- Didn't really have to "plan" it, came very fluently.

Sticking points
- Hardly approached.

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Chapter 6: A new way in to Red

Hi everyone.

As most of you are aware of, or maybe are not aware of, I've been in the game for almost a year now. I've started out as a frustrated boy, who had the motive to hurt the girls like they have hurt me. Most of you are problebly quite similar to this scenario and can therefor follow my reasoning. When I arrived here in November 2010, I was unable to declare what was wrong with my actioning, where I stood in life, what my desires were and most importantly.. why did it all go wrong?

Now, almost 9 months later, I've managed to succesfully close:
- Around 200 - 300 phone numbers.
- Over 70-80 kiss-closes.
- 21 Full closes.

Now, what do these numbers actually mean to me? The key to all my problems, the salvation to my worried past or a way out of my troublesome present life? Actually, I'm afraid that none of the above is correct. It didn't offer me a reason or a solution to anything, it made me abundant in what I want and even more.. it distanced me from the actual point of origin.

myself.

Now... Being in the game for this period of time, I'm glad to say that I didn't only 'sarge', 'seduce', 'pick up HB's' or even 'cougars.' I'm glad to say that above all, I've been able to let go of my past, been focussing on my desires and more importantly I've been able to express them.

Current stand of business
During my path to this 'enlightenment' as I would love to call it, I've been involved in several projects regarding to social aspects, women, business, personal boundaries and pushing myself. Every aspect of this above, made the person where I am at right now.

Currently I'm in 3 open relationships, with girls that know it from eachother. They don't have a problem with either of eachother (except sometimes for the healthy jealousy ) Because I was clearly honest and open from the beginning. I expressed what I wanted, how I wanted it to happen and that those were the only ways in which I could function at this time of my life.

Right now - the age of a PUA has finally ended.

The age of the Seducer has finally commenced.

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