Basically, I've broken down my entire problem into this. I'm depressed because I can't get women, and I can't get women because I'm depressed.

I don't think this needs much explaination but how can I properly game if I'm not in the right mindstate? When my depression hits, what little energy I have is devoted to simple things like getting out of bed, going to work, and the few chores I absolutely cannot blow off for another day.

Depression can't be controlled directly but there are things you can do to influence it. For example, if you can actually muster the motivation to go out and surround yourself with good people, often times the good energy can make a huge difference. This is a problem in itself with me however. As all my friends and family are in relationships. If you're bummed because no women are in your life, the last thing you want to see is a happy couple all over each other.

Most of the time I can fake a smile untill the positive vibes do their thing but lately I can't even force myself to do that. I guess that's why I've recently joined the forums. I can't seem to find any like-minded individuals where I live so I turned to the internet.

Any advice anyone? Any words of encouragement? I've never tried approaching women when I've been depressed because I just assumed there was no way it could work... should I say fuck it and try it anyway?

There's something I'd like you to have a read of. All 9 pages of it.
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In the end, the author of this post describes how therapy helped him out, and how it would benefit most other guys in this community. It's also very inspirational, and very accurate as well. Also check out all of his links, and recommendations. It's all about changing the way you think and perceive things. Hope this helped a bit.

Hello sir.

I think 50-70% of everyone in the forums have experienced this. Hell this is my first thread and it's like 5 days ago?
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But I've managed to get a positive mindset. I went back to the basics that is tackling Approaching Anxiety and today I was able to communicate comfortably with a girl. No I didn't get her name or number but it was a good start and I feel really good about it.
I highly suggest getting The Blueprint Decoded by Tyler Durden or Inner Game by David DeAngelo or other materials, a lot of which are uploaded in youtube for free.

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Positive affirmations are what helps me a lot of times. The first moment I wake up I read them and speak them outloud. They don't work 100% of the time, but they are far better and faster then anything else I tried. Google some at first and then create a new ones that give you the feelings you are looking for.

Also, many people talk negatively to themselves. Like "I suck", "I'm a failure", "I'm depressed", etc. It's a really bad habit! You have to break this pattern and replace it with your positive affirmations.

One such affirmation I used a lot is something along "I like myself no matter what anyone else thinks about me!" or "I am an awesome person!"

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"Depression: the inability to realize the capability to adapt" - Marco lee

this might help you too -> http://ourdevelopingmind.com/myth-busti ... breakdown/

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Thanks to all of you. All the words and links have been extremely comforting as well as helpful. I've only had a chance to check Bloodninja's link but fully plan on working my way down the rest of them.

Again.... thanks a bunch guys!

Check out RSD BluePrint. Is a 20 hour video that is will literally change the way you think.

Do what you're good at and enjoy it. Learn to play a musical instrument.

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I've battled mild depression on and off for a few years. Partially due to lack of success with women, but also numerous things contributing. Two pieces of advice I can offer:
1. Talk to a counsellor. It's awkward and embarrassing at first, but dammit was it worth it in the end.

2. Read this book and/or watch the movie. www.thesecret.tv
It's a little tough to stick with at times, but this has really influenced my life in a number of ways.

Hope this helps

What the fuck are we doing here talking about depression and having to read 9 pages? Man you can get women easily! You're not being a male, that's the problem. The reason you can't get women is because of society and shit. Get primitive man, PURSUE the woman. I don't know what to say people but some of the shit on here truly baffles me when it's so simple. Stop dicking around, go after women, and escalate because at least 75% of them already want our dicks! What the fuck has become of our gender..

We're not fucking psychologists, we're males out on the hunt. That's it.

If you are depressed, seek help. Getting laid won't cure clincial depression. At best it will just delay recurrence of symptoms. Pickup is best used when you are in a mentally sound place, and not as a medicine for personal issues.