I remember Sean Stephenson said "Anything will work if you believe in it". Personally I use direct game because direct and Alpha fits my personality and appearance. I don't go in trying to convince a woman to talk to me because I have the belief that they should be convincing me to stay.

Everything gets easier with direct game. No more complicated openers, you have immediate escalation and dhving, and it's natural. You don't have to worry about being caught using lines or routines or be accused of reading the game or watching the pick-up-artist (that show is really popular now).

One of my favorite quotes of Juggler is:"Why would you want to hide your intentions toward a woman? Eventually are you going to be like Surprise! I want to have sex with you!".

Also I had a theory that good looking PUAs don't need to try hard to open, their looks take most of the work out of opening (and many other parts of game). If you have looks, women want to talk to you, all you have to do is allow them to. Why spend time on an indirect opener, when all that was required was "Hello". I think that less attractive guys benefit more from indirect game because it gives them the opportunity to DHV before making a move, thereby allowing to start off high rather than low.

Very much so.

I would say it depends on how you physically approach the girl and what you follow up with conversation wise and body language wise. Because the word "hi" itself is neutral.

Looks do matter, but that should not determine what type of game the guy uses. Also just because a guy is good looking does not mean he has it any easier than an guy that is less attractive than him. Because if he is not a good looking guy on the inside the girl will loose interest in him.

What I had said was that looks are helpful on the opener, obviously you need to back up your looks with game. But as I said Whereas they may be initially much less enthusiastic and excited to talk to a guy with below average looks. Obviously personality affects attraction, but women don't have a sense for your personality yet when your opening.
Indirect game was designed to provide puas with enough time to build attraction (that's how Mystery defines his openers anyway), whereas someone with looks has built-in attraction and therefore doesn't need to build it. You don't need looks to use game, but you can't deny looks are a huge advantage and prevent a lot of initial rejection. Women like to talk to good looking guys, and these guys don't need to have an excuse to do so.

There have even been scientific studies that show that even very young children prefer good looking people over average or less than average looking people. It's built into your brain's wiring to enjoy being around good looking people.

Direct game: dont start with direct game if you dont have somewhat solid game OR you dont look alpha(tall, good looking, great body, good style, etc) OR HB is noticeably older looking than you are.

direct game is great but its not the best...doing direct game will force HB to "say" YES or NO ON THE SPOT, this will be judged by your looks, age, style, initial approach and body language, also your ability to smoothly transition in case shes intrigued. The worst part about direct game is that it doesnt give you a chance to show your personality before HBs decide yes or no, its hit or miss really, but for the alphas this approach works well and closes the deal fast.

if your not very alpha looking but rather witty, smart, or funny in character, indirect game has the advantage to showcase your personality before you state intent. that's right, youll make her laugh, lead the conversations, out alpha her in conversations and this WILL work, good personality is hard to come by anyway but this will take a lot more time with a set

This is complete bullshit.

Being direct only filters away girls who are DEFINITELY not interested, which is a time saving tool. It also acts as an instant attraction trigger by showing CONFIDENCE and HONESTY. The idea that it makes them make some instant "decision" is completely wrong - most women won't "say yes" immediately, but will rather say "ok" and be open and willing to stick around and listen to further. This is when the rest of the game gets played.

The only 2 direct openers you'll ever need (tailored to suit your own personality and choice of wording)

During the day: "Hi, I know this may be a bit random, but I just noticed you walking past and I think you look absolutely gorgeous, so I had to come meet you. I'm ____ "

At a club: "Hey, listen, don't take this the wrong way, but you look fucking sexy and I want to get to know you. I'm ____ "

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oh i meant theyll think yes or no not actually say it, shell come to a conclusion

when you make your intent known shell be intrigued due to your confidence and honesty BUT this sets off a screening process(in which your personality doesnt even come up btw) shell screen for looks, height, style, confident tone and body language, what her friends will think, how smooth you are, etc.

this screening process will determine yes or a no in her mind which happens pretty fast thats why it works so well for all around alpha guys(watch paul janka) this will not work so good for guys who arent alpha looking, or dont have a tight verbal game or just seem like an obvious mismatch in her mind(her preference and preconditions mean alot to your success)

Direct game is the bestttttttt... I would never understand indirect, the only time i use indirect is if something is going on on the environment, factual not bullshit, for example if i am in an elavator and is not moving, or is hot i start a conversation about that...and then say by the way i am Brad pit , or vin diesel and she would get a chucle then ask my name...Give me a few i will be back with the ones i use..

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This is what works for me:

1.- if a girl is looking at me i look at her back and say: are you going to look at me like that and not say anything....

2.- go up to a girl and say: hey! this is not a line, but do i know you from some where??????Pua

hb i don't think so!

do we have any friends in common?

hb i don't think so!

then you say, that is why i decided to come up to you and introduce myself, they call me brad p. or whatever some clever, funny name..Go from there...


3.-hey, are you confident enough to accept a sincere/honest compliment?

hb yes

ok, you go first, shoot!

she will laugh, actually i came here because i wanted to find out if your looks match your personality, i am brad pitt.. or i am cornigulus, or some stupid made up name... if she ask for your real name in all cases is an ioi...


I can not rationalize in my head opinion openers, maybe because i am a natural, but i think they are so weak... I even ask my girl and she thinks they are weak...

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walk within 20 cm from them, and scream "HAVE MY BABIES".

or you can just go up with confidence and just say "Hey your style caught my attention blah blah blah"

or "hey your really cute, i just had to come say hi"

or how about even "how you doin'" (like joey tribiani)

You think this "screening process" isn't ALREADY happening anyway, regardless of what kind of opener you use? You think the "screening process" doesn't already involved her preferences anyway? You think women are only attracted to alpha male stereotypes?

The idea that this "screening process" doesn't involve your personality is LUDICROUS! The number ONE attraction factor for women is CONFIDENCE - which is a personality trait, and expressed incredibly powerfully by using a direct opener.

Instead of telling people what WON'T work based on your own backwards rationalisations, I would encourage you to go out and TRY starting conversations with an honest compliment and seeing what actually happens. You may be pleasantly surprised at your results!

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Its obvious indirect and direct game are just as effective as eachother in the right hands, in my opinion it comes down to personality.

for example Im a confident guy who can have a fun convo on the spot with a girl, and asides from just recently trying daygame, have always used direct openers (hey whats your name etc)

When trying opinion openers in daygame, it just seems really wierd and insincere to me, even when i deliver it as sincere as possible or generally would like an opinion, it just seems like going direct is quicker and easier, yet obviously takes alot more balls lol

opinions?

i always say '' hey i saw you and i just want to talk to you ''
with everything i open direct or non-direct i always add ; just want to talk to you this is congruent with me because i really want to talk to those people , i really want to game and have a great time with other people.

i think it's less intimidating - especially for insecure or introvert people if you say your purpose by being honest /congruent.
all woman like to talk ... all guys in the club only like to fuck or pretend to be toughguys. the real succesfull guys i've seen with or without game just love to talk and mess around.

woman perform all kind of rituals before going out.... they put on make up and all kind of other stuff . some woman are preparing for hours prior to going out, so why neg-open that girl on her looks ? When you are direct and complimenting her it takes away her insecurity - it makes her comfortable.
if woman really were confident about their looks they wouldn't use make up and all that shit.....most guys can open sets but do suck mid game and end game, it's just because the woman is uncomfortable around you - she is fighting with her own insecurites and her own ASD, guys are negging and making the woman insecure AKA DLV thus ruining their end game. IF you make a woman feel confident around you - if you can instill these traits in others then mid game and end game are easy as hell. leading and taking the responsibility away from woman makes them feel confident etc.

all traits like leading and being confident is just because these traits make other people confident around you, being alpha isn't about looking ripped - being a jackass - talking to woman and owning guys.... to my opinion being alpha in relation to other people is making them feel comfortable around you - contributing to the interaction and society in general.
guys always talk about how to look alpha and that kind of stuff .... what im always thinking is '' how can i make feel people comfortable around me without SPAM my power ? '' and '' how can i make this more fun ? ''.

a few years ago when i tried direct natural game and i failed because i didn't like talking to people, i only liked ''me'' talking to people - i only tried to pickup woman. i didn't give a shit what other people said as long i could DLV them it was ok. After a while i decided to help people by reinforcing good behaviour and ignoring bad behaviour, i just want to contribute instead of picking up ''chicks''. a change of live purpose .... why be a dick if you can be nice and succesfull ?

anyway i gone out just to talk to people .. to really listen what they say and not go in like ... open ... body rock ... false time constraint... neg .. isolate...
instead i just complimented guys and woman on personality or appearance and to my surprise most woman actually responded positive.
They actually like a guy who just want to talk and not want to get in their pants straight away... what everybody wants in the end is someone who is warm and gentle - someone who is positive and sincere, someone who understands woman and men.

woman know guys are talking to them because they want to fuck ... they are not stupid.. most guys fuck in the conversation and talk while having sex lol, what im doing is talking in the conversation and fucking while having sex. A direct opener could convey is that you are confident to talk to people directly - if you have the right midset and values prior to the open.

doing alot of direct openers build confidence because you don't have to use a opener , if you use canned / non-direct openers you will be dependent. you will be totally inside your head if you don't know which opener to use but if you use a direct opener you can open up anywhere anytime ... honesty is not so important to other people - it's more important to you. most guys are trying to be too honest or too non direct .. you need to balance.

everytime you are non-direct you are covering up your personality subconciously but of course it depends on the mindsets you are using and the goals you have.

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Never. Ever tell her something like "nice shoes" without you being honest about it, i i were a girl and a guy came and told me "nice purse" i'd reject him right away. There is a video made by juggler about this in youtube.

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