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Get into the gym, or on the bike, whatever! During those 6-10 months continue to approach and make conversation. Go out and talk, talk random shit to random people. Sports, Games, Books, School, etc....Pay attention to what they say and how they talk to you. Listen and learn so that you can improve your conversational skills. You can improve your game, social skills and the way you look all at the same time. Use the Gym as a reason to start conversations with people who are working out, ask their opinion/advice.
Dont compair yourself to your wings success...
The only thing I see that you are doing wrong, is making excuses!
Keep the faith Bro!
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Pick Up is about self improvement. In overall life, not when it just comes to women and trying pick them up.
If your the type that stays at home and watches tv all day, yeah, your gonna have hard time hooking up with women.
If you start having hobbies, your chances are gonna increase. While your sarging, you can throw in your hobbies to timebridge. Working out can be one of them. I love to work out, and I actually time bridge with we should work out together.
I know a fat short guys that sarge, he is better then me at it because of his hobbies and stuff. And I am a good looking guy.
Improve your overall life, take up hobbies, be passionate about sometime. Meantime, keep on sarging. What method to take up is up to you. Point is there is no shortcut to pick up. Your gonna have to learn it one way or another if you wanna get good at hooking up with women. Took me a year to get my first lay btw.
Look thanks for answering but you are missing the point here, IM NOT TALKING ABOUT MYSELF, i use myself as an example of how some methods are better for some people and other not so much.
The point of my post was that i keep reading the same question asked in many threads and they ALWAYS lead to the same place. And i wanted to "propose" a new more efficient line of thinking, instead of sucking ones thumb six months, why not throw ideas in the short term.
Look, people who arent in shape or are fat knows that they are. You telling them to hit the gym doesnt really change their definition of reality, they know that, they know what they should do. Whether they are doing it or not depends on the them BUT what im asking is not what they SHOULD do in the long term but what they can do in the short term.
I already edit the the post to explain it better.
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P90X is best for quick improvements.
Great advice but i meant what one can improve his game in the short term. But thanks im gonna check it out.
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I feel your pain.
I used to weight over 300 pounds and look like a metal head (long head, long beard etc)
I couldn't do any sort of direct approach, it was nearly impossible. Neither would 60's technique work for me.
At that time, what I would do is simply not play the game (don't get me wrong, I would still game women, but not using premade techniques or openers).
I would go out with a wing who's a good friend and just not try to approach... just like you said, if I ever tried to approach, I'd get 0 response. What I had setup with my wing before hand is that we'd only open double sets or groups. 1 on 1, he'd always get the upper hand, of course he's good looking.
So basically when he'd open two sets, he'd do regular techniques during that time, what I'd do is just be C&F and every now and then, I could get #close, sometime kclose... fclose was a little harder on a first night, but once I could setup a 1 on 1 date with the girl, I had better chances at fclosing.
What I remember from that time is that kino wouldn't help much, I was not particularly attractive so girls wouldn't think of me sexually. What I had to do is get into their brains, basically what I'm saying is start studying NLP and stuff like that. Any other tool that would DHV (magic, mind-reading, body language reading, cold read, etc) are also great tools to get a woman interested in you.
Last think I can tell you is don't aim too high... if you're a 3, don't shoot for a HB8, be realistic, even a 5 can give you a huge self esteem boost (and also a motivation boost to keep on working out/dieting).
So to summarize...
- If you don't have the looks, direct approach is very hard
- You can't be passive since she's got no interest in you
- Instead, get her attention with any DHV tools/tricks
- Use C&F techniques to push-pull her to get some attraction going.
- Kino early will NOT help you. Get into her brain.
- Don't aim too high
- Obviously, keep on dieting + exercising
Obviously, I'm no mPUA, this comes from a guy who used to be just like you, just speaking from experience here. Maybe some PUA can give you exact techniques to use.
Cheers!
THIS THIS is what i mean, what out of shape person can do with their game while they are out of shape, what can one do, this is the line of thinking i was talking about.
BTW: the dont aim too high, you keep doing that? it is an interest point to discuss while things like MM tell you to aim as high as you can, while you are out of shape aiming hard only means failure and a hard blow to the ego.
Personally i 5/6/7 girls are great for practice and even snl (though i would probably never f-close a 5) but i would never settle for anything less that a 8 as a girlfriend.
what has been your experience?
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