I think you may be misunderstanding the whole "dont-buy-drinks" things a little bit.

What you want to avoid at all costs is BUYING HER TIME with drinks, as well as just being manipulated into buying drinks so she can party for free.

Two classic scenarios to avoid-

# 1 is the party girl who just uses her looks and sexuality to get AFCs to perform tasks for her such as buying her drinks, stroking her ego, getting her little gifts, doing errands for her etc etc when she has no "investment" into the relationship and has no intentions or desire of things escalating into a romantic/sexual realm.

#2. part A. Is buying HER TIME by buying a drink. The definition of that is the AFC buys her a drink in hopes that she will be gratefull enough to him for the drink that she will talk to him and interact with him.

#part B of this would be to buy drinks to appear to be the big spender or to be generous or appear to be some kind of sugar-daddy or big man on campus type thing.


OK so when is it OK to buy drinks? IMHO you have the green light to buy drinks once the HB is "invested" in you and is spending time with you and interacting with you because she is sincerly attracted to you and interested in you and wanting to spend more time with you and wanting to have more fun with you.

The trouble with that is that it can be hard to tell at first when someone is sincere and when they are just manipulating as in scenario #1. That is where skill in reading people comes in.

If you can get her to buy a couple rounds of drinks first and she seems ok with it then no harm done. If she is showing a lot of sincere IOIs and would clearly stay and interact with you EVEN IF YOU WOULDNT BUY DRINKS, that is probably OK too.

Your little test just doesn't seem to accomplish anything and I don't see any real point to it. At least an AFC might buy a few minutes of awkward convo when he buys a girl a drink, what are you actually accomplishing by buying a drink and then walking away????? It just doen't make any logical sense.

At best I think you are trying to look like scenario #2 B up above. You are just trying to make some kind of impression but you aren't really going anywhere with it.

You may accomplish making some gal wonder what your gig is but I don't think it is actually going to accomplish anything positive either.

I guess I just don't get the point. Maybe I'm missing something.

A friend and I open a 2 set last night. After 5 mins of convo about absolute bs one girl asked me what I was drinking. My reply was "why? Are you gonna buy me a drink?" She say maybe. 5 more mins of convo she says that she is going to the bathroom. She comes back and asks me again. I tell her cranberry/vodka. She leaves yet again and comes back with a drink for me and her friend, but not my friend. I negged her for trying to get me drunk. Then negged again for her not buying my friend a drink. Her reason was that her friend should buy him one. I then asked what type of vodka it was and when she didn't know, negged her a third time for buying me house crap that would lead to me having a hangover. 3 negs in less than 5 mins isn't always a good idea so don't do it! Shortly after I thanked her, called her a sweetheart and kiss closed. Number closed later on and setup day 2 at my house.

Morale of the story: don't buy girls drinks

how in any way is that the moral of the story?

also you really need to get out of the habit of labeling 'negs' before you turn into the next Mystery

a few hundred is my guess considering hes nearly 40!! gives me hope!

Get out of the habit of labeling negs before I become the next mystery? Not sure what this means but if that means I will have 2 seasons of a tv show and can pull women with no effort, I'm all for it.

As for the moral of the story, these guys are saying that you should buy a girl a drink and walk away. I proved last night that you not only don't have to buy a girl a drink, but you can get her to buy you one, and still close. Duh! Day 2 is already planned for tomorrow. Game on!

i think you missed the whole point of this thread. good luck for tomorrow

That doesn't really prove anything. I do things that get me laid all the time, that doesn't mean it's the 100% best method or the only way to get laid. If I go out and buy a girl a drink tonight, walk away, and get laid later on, does that PROVE the original poster was right? Of course not. It's just another things to think about, and something that could be used in the RIGHT situation (not every situation). I'll keep the OP's suggestion in the back of my mind, and if it feels right then one day I may use it.

Generally though, I agree with you, I don't buy girls drinks if I'm not actually on a day 2 date with them.

yea im really diggin the edit!

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Good tactic, I can't really even see why guys are complaining about the risk of losing a few bucks, if you can afford quality condoms, you can afford one drink for this tactic! I'm gonna try this, I like it a lot!

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Many instructors have said that buying a girl a drink is a complete no no, so not sure how buying a girl a drink and walking away is any better... I would love to see 1 instructor that would actually tell his student to buy a girl a drink and walk away.

No method is ever 100%, but I have gotten further with women not buying them a drink than I have buying them one. Personally, I would love to buy a girl a drink. I think it shows that I'm a gentleman. Also shows that I can be a provider. Just my opinion though. Unfortunately if you go to a club/bar, there are 100 other men lined up more than willing to buy a girl a drink. She's offered this every night she goes out. It's no better than walking up to her and using a pickup line. She's heard it a million times already. One thing that sets me apart from them is the fact that I won't. Only time I will ever come out of my pocket for a girl is if I ask them out on a date.

Anyway, don't want to rant. To each their own. Happy gaming!