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PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2011 6:08 pm 
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That a female knows if she'll fuck you or not at first sight, and the rest is your job to not fuck it up?


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PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2011 7:46 pm 
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no i read and experieced that girl will flirt with you when u first meet her while shes deciding what is your potential if your boyfriend or one nite stand material
thats why you think a girls into you when u first meet smoewhere and then she gets cold later when u didnt evn talk to her a again yet(guys does this sound familiar at all)


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PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2011 9:00 am 
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I agreed with that sentiment for the longest time after I came to pua, until experience taught me otherwise. Girls live off their emotions and what they feel in the moment, and your first impression and the conditions it was in are not going to last forever. Or even very long at all.


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PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2011 9:11 am 
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I remember hearing that sentiment. Chris Rock is a good PUA trainer :D


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PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2011 12:01 pm 
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Basically true.

There are a percentage of women that will NEVER sleep with you, regardless of what you do or say, and know that within the first minute (maybe they're just not attracted or already in a relationship). However, some of these women will still be happy to hang around you, laugh at your jokes, accept drinks, dinner and gifts from you, and be your platonic friend should you try to escalate on them.

Then there are some who instantly want to fuck you, and would do so that evening if you simply escalated, without hardly saying a word. Many of these girls will be turned OFF if you talk too long or don't escalate when they give you the opportunity to.

The vast majority of women will be in a middle category. They WOULD be happy to sleep with you at some point, but they want to wait around a bit and see what you've got first before definitely making a decision.

=> Regardless of category (which you can't actually know for sure until you talk to her) the BEST way to open, therefore, is to state your intent clearly, directly and confidently from the moment you begin the conversation (or within the first few minutes if you open indirectly).

This is because the FIRST category of women are FORCED to reject you, so you don't waste time trying to build rapport, comfort and attraction with a woman who will NEVER sleep with you.

The second category will already want to sleep with you, so will stay there, accept your direct compliment, and you can begin to escalate and receive immediate compliance.

The third category will NEVER be more attracted to you then when you have the balls to compliment them so directly. As you begin to escalate, they may want to slow you down, and you can continue to game them, get to know them and build more sexual anticipation as they eventually come around to being comfortable enough over time to sleep with you.

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PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2011 7:17 pm 
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Yes this is true.

Ryan makes a point about stating your intent clearly.
This is HUGE.

That way if you are rejected for any number of reasons you know she was just not into you at that point in time. (and you waste no more time in the pick up)
Likewise if interest is shown and you agree to meet up you must assume at some point you will sleep with her.
She will likewise be thinking the same.

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