Opps double post..love internet

Dear Adam. This is a lesbian situation but I thinkyou can help me. The girl I was with was Bulgarian. From the beginning she was terrified people would find out because being gay isn't socially acceptable in her culture. She was totally into me and chased me at first. I messed it up.. I didn't know about the game and became clingy. She changed ships (I work on a cruise ship) but before she went she said she loved me and promised we would see eachother again and I could come visit her in Bulgaria etc. I believed her, but since she got off she has been very distant. Her messages started off short but sweet 'I miss you' etc. I sent her a long sweet message and her reply was literally a cold 'stay in touch.' I have the opportunity to request her ship but scared she will give me the cold shoulder if I work with her again. She hasn't spoken to me now in well over a month. I know people say to freeze her out, but I know if I do she won't bother making contact. Please help x

p.s if you could turn me back that might help

Start talking to you mum mate.

Hey Adam

Ive got a question on the PEN model and what you talked about at the 21convention in 2010, you talked about how women have 3 base personalitys and how they are all attracted to a different type of guy. But towards the end of your talk you briefly touched upon how the girl can change when in a relationship. Eg from extravert to neurotic because of her mindset about being in the relationship.

This got me thinking, Wouldnt the base personality of a women depend on what part of her life she is in? and what her perceptions are of the world at that point? Meaning that a womens base personality could change at any time depending on certain situations? If this is true (Ive never read the study you used and maybe I dont understand this at the same level as you guys) couldnt a PUA learn to pick up on certain signs that the women is changing to a different personality, allowing us to act upon it?

There are a few questions in there, and hopefully you can understand what im trying to get across,

Cheers

ok...i stopped at her house again last night...intimate again but no sex..woke up had cup of tea with dad and brother who are really friendly..(they actually know she has a bf but both know he is a dick to her) like she told me she was getting ready to go out the other night she was singing in front of the mirror and he told her to shut up!! i swear i want to kill him lol....back to the point when i left she came to the door i say come here gimme a kiss! and she sayd she felt bad and didnt give me one..so i just gave her a hug................................

i got home with a bit of a messed up head and i asked her why wouldt she kiss me..''so you regret last night now then?''

her--''i dont regret it just i feel like a really shit person and dont want to be that person (but i dont know there is something about uuu i just cant help it u seem to nice to be true''

i will probably see her out this sunday night any suggestions on what i should do???
p.s she is the most honest person i have ever met..i could ask her anything and she would tell me..i dot know if this will work at my advantage at all..

Yo adam

What's your take on sexual tension? What is it exactly, and how can it be used effectively? if you could explain it in detail that would be cool. thanks

~lolaskate

Hey adam I have been searching everywhere for your PEN test and can't find it. You got me really interested in your 21 conversation seminar and would love it if you could share the PEN test with me or direct me to a place where i can find it. Thanks brada

Hi Adam, I've seen a lot of your material and there's a question I'd like to ask...

I have just bought a new flat (which I haven't moved into yet) and I'm wondering if there's any tips in terms of decorating or designing the place that would up my chances when I bring a girl back.

I've seen your talk on logistics, and I like your idea of having a bright light at the entrance and then getting dimmer and dimmer all the way to the bedroom. i'm going to use that. I'm also going to remember what you said about having your house clean and always having alcohol and condoms. But are there another other tricks you'll be kind enough to share with me?

Another question I want to ask, specifically to you because it was one of your talks on justification that inspired this.

I'm not a fan of nightclubs but I am lucky enough to work with a lot of pretty girls (I work in a big department store) and I can get to know a lot of them and I can usually get a lot of banter going, its something I'm good at. But the problem is this is at work where we have to be professional and I'm often getting cockblocked by customers. I'd rather talk to them them in a more personal setting, like at my home or even just over msn. Now I remember you talking about justification and that even when a girl wants to go with you she doesn't want to seem too easy so you provide a justification so she can go back to your place without feeling like a "slut". I want to know if from experience you have any good high percentage justifications that would work in my situation.

Thank you very much for this.

I'm new to the PUA community, and don't really know much. AFC Adam, could you please write a routine that i could use just to get me started off ??

Thanks

Peace,

Troyden

P.S. what was the main reason that made you want to become a PUA ??

Dear afc adam

1. In 21 convention 2010 u said der were 3 different types of girls so wat sort of things can i ask them to find out what type of person they are and then game them correctly?

2. what clubs did u go into at london?

3. i know no girls so if i was to day sarge and then invite them all to that club how can i get in for free and how can they also get in for free?

4. how did u make money just by bringing girls because in a presentation u called them up and said something?

5. how can i make sure that they become my friends or maybe more?

6. how can i make sure that they have a good time and make sure that idiots dont hit on dem?

7. do i need to secure a vip table if yes how can i get it for free?

8. how do i befriend the ower, bouncer and manager, owner and the hot waitresses ( how can i move things further with her)?

9. If all the girls are in on place wont they say how do u know jay and then they say he chatted me up during the day and then they think of me in the wrong way or something?

Men the it's great to Hear you the Only problem i have right now is i am studying in Pakistan in a University Campus there is alot of beautiful girl but they are hard to talk ... i mean i had a lot of approch anxiety also there is what you call alot of tribal leader problem's everyone act like that help me

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Hey,
My question is do you have any good big hoop qualifiers to test for attraction besides beauty is common etc. what you have going for you more then your looks (mystery), and also do you have/use sexual qualifiers to see where your at during comfort building?

thanks

Hi Guys, Im new to the forum, although I've been in the game for the last year. I put all my thoughts on paper yesterday and thought I'd share. I think I have covered the major elements to successful game. Any thoughts?

All of the following must be included in a pick up to be successful.
3 most important elements that must be achieved in every approach: Talk, Touch & Confidence. What else is there?
- Interesting Verbal (routines)
- Successful escalation through Kino (DEL)
- Confident Body Language (Stand tall, eye contact)
BIGGEST THING TO REMEMBER: She wants to be approached! She wants to feel special! Life’s too short to not approach every hot girl you see! Be confident! Don’t care so much!

The following are subsequent parts that boost the success rate in every approach.
1. Kino with DEL. incidental followed by overt kino (removes the idea of a friend)
2. Routines (removes yourself from the herd)
3. FTC (gives you value, puts her at ease, she won’t be thinking of an excuse to bail)
4. Be Honest and Never Apologise for anything. (if she is cold, on to the next one! Why waste time)
5. Confidence (don’t give a shit, she is one of a million. She is not rejecting you, she is rejecting your game! She doesn’t even know you so don’t get bummed) – it’s a numbers game!
6. Make a Connection and Build Repour. (Essential for day2) - use beauty is common
7. NLP (let her do the talking, be interested in her and listen, match her speaking pace and flow, plant yourself in her happy place to relate positive attitude towards you)
8. Make her laugh (with a story or game eg 5q game)
9. Number close after each stage has been completed, offer a surfing lesson for example.
10. Continue to talk after number close and end with a hug if you want to see her again. Leaving instantly after getting a number makes her feel cheap. Make her feel like the most special girl in the room.

Quick Number Close: Never go for the quick number close. What’s the point? Good for your ego but you won’t see her again, guaranteed. You didn’t make a connection, didn’t make her remember you, you won’t get sex and you have wasted your time. Good for a warm up or to win a bet but that’s about it.

Aim to Achieve: Every approach should last around 10-20minutes. This will plant you in her mind and ensure the chance of a second meeting. Try not to kiss close if you want to see her again. This leaves her feeling cheap and she will know what you want when you call. Leave with the number and make her feel special.

Rejection: Always remember that a rejection is not a reflection on you as a person, you know who you are, she doesn’t. A rejection means 2 things:
- Your game needs assessment. She rejects the approach, not you as a person.
- She’s a negative person. Why would you want to see her again?
Everything should come easy, if it doesn’t, on to the next one. Don’t waste time, life’s too short.

Biggest Sticking Point: Approach (first 30secs-1min).
Direct:
1. Hi I wanted to Introduce myself, my names _____
Im going to be honest, you are very intimidating, although I would have kicked myself if I didn’t come and say hey. She will naturally ask why are you intimidated…
2. Don’t act like you don’t know, your drop dead gorgeous, although beauty is common….
3. Move to another area with Kino. Ask friends if you can steal her for a couple minutes.

Or

Indirect:
1. Intro self
2. FTC
3. I have my buddy over there and his ex gf has just arrived and we wanted to get a women’s opinion on something. How good are you at giving advice?
4. Should he make her jealous and talk to other girls or go confront her.
5. Speaking of ex gf, its uncanny how much you remind me of mine. (say all the good things women want to be eg obviously gorgeous, warm vibe, good energy.
6. To be honest, I don’t really have an ex gf, I just wanted to compliment you without being to forward and scaring you away.

Remember, She’s nervous as well!

Nothing to Say? When you have nothing to say, simply say you get a good vibe from her and that you feel comfortable around her and say nothing! If she likes you she will make an effort to talk to you. Unless she is smoking hot, make her work a little as well. A man of value does not validate himself, shows no confidence. Put the ball in her court, it’s a game, like tennis, let her return, if she doesn’t, she’s not worth it.

After the Open DO NOT TALK HER EAR OFF! If she has no personality, on to the next one! Make her work for you.

If she shows no interest, call her out on it! Say, ‘if im bothering you or keeping you from someone just say so’. Be honest! False takeaways are similar to tests in trading the stock market. Makes the bears show there hand. If she is keen she will react with emotion. If she doesn’t care, excuse yourself and make her kick herself after she sees you talking to another girl.

Put simply, Every action must be that of a man of value, AKA act like a professional. Very similar to trading. Be calculated and know what you want. Look for those buy signals and have your stop loss ready. Cut your losses short and look elsewhere for a better opportunity after the stop loss has been triggered. Why waste your time!

Every approach you don’t take you strike out 100% of the time.

What to say when you have nothing to say:
The best way to keep the convo going is to talk about something she is wearing. TALK ABOUT HER! She will love it. It took her 3 hours to get ready, she will appreciate it.

What am I worried about when approaching
1. Her not caring about what I have to say.
Response: Call her out on her rudeness; if she still doesn’t show emotion, say ‘negativity isn’t attractive love’
2. Her friends listening to me.
Response: Intro yourself to them, say I really wanna talk to your friend her, can I steal her for a few minutes?
3. AMOG comes over
Response: Intro self, call yourself out and ask if its ok.
4. Her saying, sorry I’m not interested..
Response: Thank her for her honesty. NEVER attack her. Make her regret it later.

A girl knows when you are being fake, don’t dance around the elephant in the room and tell her you think shes gorgeous and you want to get to know her. She knows you want to talk to her because you made the effort. Be honest and have fun with her. It shouldn’t be hard. If it is, it must be one of the following:
1. Your game (approach) needs attention
2. You don’t know what you want
If you want a gf, you look for quality girls who aren’t dressed like whores. If you are looking for a slut to have sex with that night, look for the girls that dress like whores. You should be able to adjust your approach depeding on what you want. Knowing what you want is very important. It will save you time and will allow you filter through the girls you meet efficiently and effectively.

Hey so i have a question, but first i jsut wanted to say that i think its awesome that you answer all these questions, most puas just try to sell you stuff and rip you off.

So my question is, how would you say your game is different than mystery method game? I ask because i see mystery as a weird trying-too-hard loser whereas you come off as very genuine. Im also more of a nice guy so your style gives me hope that i can succeed with my nice guy persona.