I can get numbers, k-close, etc. How do I go about getting an f-close?

Can you get Day 2? Can you get the girl to go with you to your place?

In other words, what exactly is your problem?

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My problem seems to be building up kino without making it awkward.

If you can kiss-close your problem shouldn't be kino escalation.

what is the REAL problem mate? where is your game lacking?

is it getting her out of the club?
is it getting her home?
is it LMR? (last minute resistance)
Is it isolating?

if she's kissing you, you can built attraction, rapport, kino, and you can isolate, so thats not the real issue.

if you find something let us know and we'll help point the way

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I hesitate after kissing the chick so maybe it's lmr on my part. Haha, and I'm not sure what to do to escalate kino AFTER I kiss her, is what I meant.

Sorry my post was kinda vague. I usually don't need much help on things like this, most of the time on here I ask about opinions on things like what to wear and stuff.

Oh okay

what i usually do is jump to another venue, thats relatively close to were i live.

suggest getting some food, tell her you know a great place, easy for me since i live about 20 minutes from most of the nightclubs, so it's a 15 minute walk to food and then i just have to lead them the rest of the way while we're eating ;D

or be more direct, figure out where they live, and if its a long walk home for her, tell her: okay then you can crash with me, but dont any ideas

I also suggest you see the Adam Lyons seminar from the under 21 seminar

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6TGBKaR76c[/youtube]

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"seduction isn’t making someone do what they don’t want to do. Seduction is enticing someone into doing what they secretly want to do already".
-Waiter Rant

Thanks for the link, man! Helped a lot!

you've got it mate, now go get laid haha

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"seduction isn’t making someone do what they don’t want to do. Seduction is enticing someone into doing what they secretly want to do already".
-Waiter Rant