at clubs, not sure about malls

not gonna lie, at first i was okay with it. now its getting annoying cuz im realizing girls are choosing other guys over me because they think im gay.

i dress nice fitting clothes, sometimes polos, or designer shirts. i do my hair messy spike. eyebrow peirced.
i do know how to dance pretty well. im high energy.

but i do escalate sexually pretty fast on the dance floor. im not afraid to make moves on girls.

a lot of my friends ARE girls. i do dance with them for social proof. im starting to think having girls that are friends makes people think ur gay. not just think ur hot.

I think it's probably because of the high energy level.. most gay people i know, have this extremely high energy level.
These guys i know also have a lot of female friends and do not show any kind of sexual interest in them. They do kino sometimes, but they miss the escalation part and besides, both of their body languages just show that it's just friendly kino. Like anyone else would also do with their male friends.

My tip for you is, just lower your energy level when approaching a group (in a club) (your energy level should just be slightly higher than the group you are approaching) and show that you are sexual guy. By that i mean, use your female friends to convey to the other girls in the bar that you are sexually interested in girls (i.e. having them on your arm or something)
You could also use some dhv stories in a2 conveying that you're not gay (i.e. telling about that time with your ex-girlfriend blabla)

Say yes and then kiss the next girl that calls you gay.

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iv tryed that once and it didnt work. i should try it some more when they ask me straight up.

sometimes like last night i dont know till after. some guy got her but i had her number from before. on my way home i texted her say "not gonna lie, kinda lame that u ditched me for that guy" and she said "someone told me your were gay" and i corrected her and she wants to hang out still but if i didnt have her number i would have never have known.

I often use the "Do i look gay to you?" opener then follow it up with a DHV story so i've already asserted that i am not gay...as i often get people questioning me due the fact i wear make up, dress well etc but i dont see it as a problem more a IOI

Some responses i use that seem to work for me are...

Hb- Are you gay?
Me- Yes! im sooo gay! want a new gay fuckbuddy?

Hb- Are you gay?
Me- Just because i dress well you think im gay? No im just a fashion icon

Hb- Are you gay?
Me- OMG you are not taking me home tonight!!

Hb- Are you gay?
Me- No your just not my type gorgeous.
(Only used this a handful of times but it seems to work as theres a neg followed by a compliment)

Hb-Are you gay?
Me- (Look right into her eyes as if your judging her...Continue your conversation, If she asks again its a BIG IOI so just reply with a simple NO)

I get it a lot on nights out and although i use these comebacks a lot i find it easier to just to the last one where you just look at them then continue. It seems to work for me!

Also try more sexual escalation and kino. Assert the fact that you are not gay without being a dick. JUst grabbing them in A3 and going "You are so fucking cute" asserts the fact you are not gay.

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thanks, how well do those answers work for you? i usually just said "maybe" or say "seriously? like omg no" in a lisp. but those dont really work. well the maybe gets them thinking all night. i had this one girl that asked me like 20 times cuz i ket saying maybe. i'll try out ur lil tips.

i am really sexual on the dancefloor, i should try and amp it up when not on the dancefloor

Well i usually start with the gay opener...if i'm going in Indirect and this tends to make the girls not even ask me as i have a already stated i'm not gay...and this is by far the easiest way to bypass this. Do you know the "Do i look gay to you?" Opener?

But say i'm outside and i'm already in set and i merge or an obstacle comes in and we start talking and they ask if i'm gay i tend to do the last one where i just look at them with a puzzled look on my face and finish what i was saying.

If the target asks if i'm gay then i will say "OMG you are not taking me home tonight!" if i'm getting the right vibe of them because this already shows a sexual frame and the fact that going home with a girl is natural to you and also it sets the frame that they are trying to hit on you when really they haven't said anything.

If it is early in the interaction and the target isn't giving you many IOIs and your still doing disqualification then i say "No your just not my type gorgeous" as this shows your not interested in them YET and also shows you are not gay.

Just saying maybe and toying with girls tends not to work as they will assume that you are. Maybe is basically a yes to them as you are already giving of the gay vibe so they will just think you are but your not open enough to admit it.

Ive been in a 10 set before with two guys and they both wanted this HB so i gamed them made them my friends then isolated the HB just next to the group one of the lads leant over and tried to AMOG me so i grabbed him kissed him on the lips then said "okay so thats all your getting off me! i know guys like you!" and amazingly the HB was like "wow i love guys that are comftorble enough in their sexuality that they can kiss a guy and know that they are not gay" BANG makout! and F close. So really its not always about your actions and what your physically doing it should be your presence and your charisma and your personality that makes people think you are not gay...your just out having fun.

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Lmao....ok now that that's out of the way, on to the issue.

I've never had this issue, but I have a friend who would get that all the time lol. He would give this death stare at anyone who asked him, then AMOG the fuck out of them the entire night. It was hilarious. Also, if a guy asks, say no I don't wanna go home with you, then turn back to the girl. Realize, if you are stylish, alot of guys will try to call you out for being gay. Its not a big deal, just take the girl n let them figure it out lol. If its coming from a girl...id follow one of griff's examples as I don't really know what to say, but those sound decent. If asked id probably laugh it off, but im a pretty sexual person n girls can tell that im into them. What I think an issue is for you, is I imagine that you don't escalate past a certain point. I bet you go in build comfort n attraction but don't do anything with it. That coupled with all the girls around n the "look" probably throw them off. Gay guys can be playful n flirtatious with girls but they don't go past a certain point do you know what I mean? I think you are probably stopping yourself from going for it, n its coming off weird. Finally, don't text that girl saying stupid shit! Keep your fucking feelings to yourself! Nobody like a whining queen. Lol Back to business, don't ever let a girl know she anythinged you. Like if she kisses a guy don't say "im mad u kissed him" but also if u r into her don't say "I really like u, we would be great together"! Keep that shit to yourself and let your game speak for you. I have faith that your true problem is a lack of true escalation, and incongruency which can be interpreted weirdly. Also, maybe a slight style tweek is in order?? I respect it when a guy dresses trendy n in fashion, but I am a rare man. Alot of guys will clown u n call u a fag because of it or ask if ur gay or whatever...blow them off, AMOG, n get back to business. Hope this helps buddy. Good luck, n once your balls deep, ur sexual preference will be the LAST thing on her mind. Good luck, and happy hunting.

wow, I have your problem. And now, I am working on them. I asked girls why do they think I am gay, and then they started saying a whole number of things (I had no idea what was I doing wrong, until I started asking people about it).

Guess what they said. They said it was my attitude, the way I joke, the way I dance and other things. So I started watching gay people (their attitude, not checking them out) and it hit me. Dude, when I saw them interacting with people, I started thinking that I am gay

Basically, I needed to completely change my stature. So, what I have done, is dropped a lot of gay jokes (kept just a few of them). I increased discrepancy while standing (wider stand), focused my energy while talking, I am not flapping with my hands anymore, even though I am still high energy, instead I throw a lot of flat hands gestures. And I started watching on youtube dance lessons, so that's how I am trying to correct my behaviour.

My best advice is to find a male friend and ask him, what are you doing to look gay, because sometimes women can't tell you that, they just feel it. And I would suggest to you that you do that quickly, because turning down gay people isn't as easy as it seems

Best of luck...

I've actually had this happened to me before.

After I was talking to this girl for a while she said if I was gay. And I just stopped, looked at her and kissed her.

Apart from the dancing which has been discussed (are you unconciously mirroring your female friends' moves?), what leaps out at me from your description is the spiky hair and the eyebrow piercing. I'd ditch those for a night, try a textured hairstyle, and see how that goes.

How are your friends (girls) acting around you in the club? Are you rolling only with girls?

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This "gay" question is a shit test. Women throw this question to you to see how do you handle it. Easiest way you handle a shit test is to brush it off by making a joke out of the question.

Response with "Dont worry, youre masculine enough for me" and continue.

Its just a shit-test. I dont think that they are serious with this, so aswer them just as stupid as the question is. The key is not to react - keep your frame.

I think girls think this about me too. A girl asked me on Friday if I was straight (!?). I said "erm no" then she pounced on me lol. Either way, I've always thought this but never really considered doing anything about it until getting into PUA. Now I'm into this, I feel like I'm missing many opportunities because girls think I'm gay.

I have my ear lobes pierced, eyebrows waxed and shaped, spray tan, and my hair always has to look perfect. I guess I'm quite high energy too! However, could I not use this as a way to approach sets but 'under the radar?'

Any thoughts of opinions would be great.

Cheers,
Jay

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Next time you're up dancing with your girl friends say to one of them

"Don't look now, but that creepy guy in the corner is checking you out... Pretend we're together so he doesn't come over..."

Then you can do some elevated sexy dance moves with her without fear of upsetting her as she'll think you're doing her a favour in a friendly context. If any HB's are watching they should hopefully realise you're straight!

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