Hey fellow-PUA's,

I am an amateur PUA and I have read the 'Mystery Method': it works!!!!

I have met a Scandavian girl from my gym. She is an exchange student and will be leaving this summer. She is a real 9! Let me tell you what the situation is:

Background
We started with small talks and it was obviously she saw me as one of the many guys at the gym. But then i started negging her (big feet, slow, making fun of her) and she started to spend more time with me .

During the sport sessions, she asked me to join her class (a hoop) and I said no. She was surprised i didn't jump into her hoop. The other day, she asked me to join her and her friends for a drink at the gym. I said no again. I saw she was shocked that a guy refused her invits.

Since that moment she was giving me lots of IOI during the sport class (Eye-contact, laughing at my silly jokes, sharing a bottle of water). THen I asked her to have a drink with me and my friends.

drinks 1
Before i asked her to join me and my friends for a drink, I asked her to add me on facebook. She did. That night we would meet at a bar. Me and my friends were 15 minutes late. She sat there, all alone, in the bar. SHe was not mad and spend the whole night talking to me. She touched me (kino) and i touched her back. She even bought me drinks. We walked home together and nothing happened. We were not holding hands, etc.

Drinks 2
I asked her again to join me and my friends for a drink. This time I was 45 min late. She sat there alone in the bar for 45 min, again she was not mad. A lot of guys [AFC] approached her, but she didn't respond. Again she spend the whole night with me talking. We walked home again and nothing happened.

Drinks 3
This time my friends joined her and her friends. We were supposed to meet in CLUB A. I textmessaged her that I was around, and where she was. SHe said she was in another pub and asked me to pick her up. I said no. She send me several textmessages. One of the textmessage was "hey, you should come and meet us. We have at least two single girls here". I ignored this textmessage and said that she should be in CLUB A at 2 am. And she was in CLUB 2 at 2 am. Later that night I found out that she meant herself as one of the single girls She said it was a joke.

I arrived in the club, gave my coat to her (neg), ignored her and went to the dancefloor. Again she was astonished. She left her friends and followed me. The whole night she was touching me (kino) and followed me. She took the glass from my hands and drank my coke. She did this several time. Then we went outside for a smoke and she said "let's grab a bite". So we both left the club (while our friends are still inside). Now we were kino-ing each other. Again lots of fooling around, negging. And again nothing happened. I thought I was getting lucky tonight.

The night ended and we (me/she/our friends) took a cab. Then we went for a snack again. My wing-man saw this and left the place without finishing his food (cheers for my wing-man ) We talked further and we walked home (she lives near my place). No holding hands, and then she said I should textmessage her if i feel like for a drink. I waited a day and I textmessage her for a drink.

Drink 4
I textmessage her "I am going to get myself a coffee. You can join me.....if you dare!". Of course she agreed to have a drink with me. I setted up a hoop, that she should ring my doorbell if she was around. She didn't fall for it, and textmessaged me that she was already there and I should come.
We sat 4,5 hours in a cafe on sunday afternoon. We talked about dating. But this time there was a bit kino. I said "hands off, otherwise you have to pay". She laughed, but she said it was only friendly touching. I purposely put my leg against her leg, but she moved her leg away [bad sign]. SHe told me her greatest secrets. There were very severe [trust, am i in friendzone?] She also told me that lots of boys misunderstood her flirting behaviour. That touching is her way of communicating. SHe also told me that she was going to the cinema that night with a male friend. This took my courage away.

I negged her and even called her selfish and cold. . For the first time I saw she was defending herself, instead of being unaffected. Again nothing happened.

She said she like to hang out with me because i am challenging. She hated guys she could push over easily. And i was not like that (negging, saying no to her, etc.).


I apologize for the long story. I just want to tell you every detail, every technique I used and the response on the technique.

SHe is giving me lots of IOI, still we don't kiss or go further. What did i wrong? Or what haven't I done yet, but should do?

She is the first lady, where I have used the PUA-techniques. I really want to kiss her! This will give me lots of confidence for further gaming

Get her drunk

Hey man, this sounded like me when I started, I would take the negging way to far. Once you prove that your not like every other guy, you don't have to neg any more.

Just go for the kiss. You don't have to hold hands either, you can do stuff like carry her, girls love that, makes them feel small and you like the man.
You proved your point to her, now start getting sexual. for the future, try less negs once she likes u.

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Dude I think that you might be in the friend zone but you can still fix it.

Take her out or meet he somewhere and continue the chatting. Then isolate her from her friends and use "Mystery's" line of "Do you want to kiss me?"

1. if she says yes - Then Lean in and kiss her
2. if she says maybe - Then say "well lets find out" and lean in and kiss her
3. If she says no - Then put in a false time constraint. Say "Well I have to get going in a minute, but I'm sure Ill see you around sometime" Lean back in your chair and either get the bill or reach for your jacket and start putting it on and making as if you are going to leave.

She will probably ask you to stay and kino you, or she will say ok see ya... If she Kino's well then u can continue, but make it very sexual and use another kiss close tactic to get in there.

If she doesn't kino you then as most mPUA's will say.... Its easier to start again than to fix something that is broken.

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PUA-Bro's

thanks for your advice:

@KayB: she's scandinavian, she drinks more than i do

@Axtion: you are right. I just started with PUA-activities. Although I have read the Mystery book, still i miss field experience.

@Evochild: If nothing will happen the coming days/weeks, I will be in the friendszone. I feel this.

The last time we had a drink together was Sunday. We sat for 4,5 hoursn But I think i negged her too hard (I called her selfish and cold). It seems like i am stuck at the negging part, and don't dare to move one.

Today (4 days after the drink) I have send her a textmessage: "in my garden there are red roses growing and ready to be cut. Do you appreciate roses". She didn't response....

You are over thinking it. She is spending some serious time with you and you are not pulling the trigger. If you dont make a move on her she will begin to think that you are weak and dont take risks.

Its a very animalistic... Women are looking for a man that can

1. protect her
2. provide for her
3. Somebody that will make strong offspring.

If you don't make a move, then you will disqualify your self from all three of those criteria.

End of the day Nike says it best. JUST DO IT!

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thanks bro!

I just needed to be remembered to these basic rules

She's attracted to you. You've built comfort. But you've failed to make the moves she wants you to make over the course of multiple dates. It's not too late. You may have built up some nice tension. But you gotta pull the trigger man. It's just a kiss -- it will lead to bigger things.

Make an excuse for why you have to see her. Then build kino fast (to show that this time is going to be different) and kiss her early on in your interaction.

Your negging didn't fail you. She said she liked to be challenged. Don't be afraid to challenge her. She clearly has confidence and can handle it. Just don't be mean about it.

With the IOIs she gave you, you could have kissed her on any of those dates (and probably done more!).

You said "nothing happened". Translation: I failed to do my job
"and again nothing happened" = I got crazy butterflies and scared to fail
"we don't kiss or go further" = I didn't kiss her

Things don't just happen with girls, you have to make them happen.

You're actually doing quite well -- especially considering this is the first girl you're gaming and she's a HB8-9. Congrats! Post back once you've kissed her. Just make sure you kiss with confidence. That's what matters.

Thanks!

You are right! I chickened out at the importants moments.

Last update (20 May 2011):
She did not respond to my textmessage. At first, I was a bit mad and ignored her. But after a week, after advice of my local PUA-crew, that i should stay unaffected.

So I asked her to go pick nick with me in a garden :0 tomorrow. I am planning to kiss her then. I will keep you updated. If you have advice about kiss-closing,
it is always welcome !

I'd just try the 'do you want to kiss me' thing.
If she says no, you know what she is up to.
If not, shouldn't be a too big deal, alot of other girls out there for you
But good luck bro, keep us updated!

update 26 May

week 1: hang out in pub with MY friends: I was late, still she was not mad and spend the whole night with me. She gave me lots of IOI's. Nothing happened [ I chickened out]

week 2: hang out again. Now I was one hour late, she stood alone in bar. Still she was not mad and spend the whole night with me. Lots of IOI's

week 4: she asked me out to hang out with HER friends. I had a challenging/DHV textmessage-conversation. WHen i arrived, she left her friends and spend the whole night with me. She kino'd a lot and we left our friends to grab a bite. We walked home [nothing happened] and she said I should textmessages her if i want to hang out.

The same week I asked her for a coffee. I spend 4 hours there! Talking/teasing/etc., kino. I negged her a bit too hard.

week 5: I send her a textmessage, if she was interested in roses from my garden. No response.

week 7: I was going to work abroad. She was not reactive, so I asked her for a pic nic, before I went abroad. She agreed, but on the day self, she flaked out on me. She was 'sick'.

week 8: I was abroad for work. I told her that, and actually I expected a textmessage from her, to ask if everying was going well there. Of course no reaction from her. It was her birthday last wednesday, so I textmessage her [mistake]. And she replied 7 hours later!

week 9: This saturday she gives her birthday party. SHe invited me a few weeks ago. I am in doubt now, whether or not to go.


my thoughts
I don't feel like to go to her party, since she flaked on me and did not ask me how it was abroad. I also feel that she lost interest [because i didn't k-closed her, while i had several opportunities].

So actually i am a bit angry. Should I? Or should i stay unaffected.
SHould I go to her party? To hit on her friends to make her jealous, or to hit on her again?

So my fellow-PUA-bro's, what do you think?

My thoughts exactly.

I like Mystery Method for its clear structure. But what many people don't realize is that the Attraction Phase (A1, A2, A3) takes only few minutes of Gaming not days, weeks or even months!
I fell in to this "build more attraction" trap myself.

Many guys also don't realize that sometimes you may even start in A3! If so, just qualify her, and then move to Comfort. I usually do some A2/A3 stuff in Comfort as well just to keep her temperature up, but not much is usually necessary. But after some Comfort (again not weeks! at most few hours) I go for the kiss.

In C1 you should be able to hold/play with her hand comfortably. If not, the kiss might get awkward.

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Thanks!

I try to stay unaffected, but i find it hard to be. I feel she is losing interest in me. She flaked on me and didn't respond my textmessage. I am trying to get over it......

Do you you think i should go to her birthday party? What should be my tactics?

Neg, kino, hold hands, k-close?

...if I were you i would of F closed by week 4. She likes you if she leaves her friends for you. That shows she trusts you and you built enough comfort for her to leave without you even asking her to. She asks you to hang out, thats a no brainer. She likes you.
Think of it this way, would you go for a girl who was really really shy and wouldnt make eye contact with you and was always attached to her friends and was SHY? Im sure she wouldnt go for a shy guy and thats what your being. Your text/im/whatever game seems to be solid but then you get in person and you don't do anything. Thats in-congruency. She might be tired of doing all the work and the fact that your working abroad she just gave up on you. Go to her party and KClose the hell outta her