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PostPosted: Fri May 20, 2011 11:19 am 
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Are ugly/less attractive girls more willing to hook up with you if you approach on the street and say 'hey, you are gorgeous.. want to hook up"?

Im pretty much an AFC and suppose I need to work my way up... work on the dowdy girls first. Is this a good tactic for an AFC like me?


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PostPosted: Fri May 20, 2011 12:24 pm 
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Never tried with UB10, but my guess is that it wouldn't work with a line like that. They'll probably think you're just playing with them and are not serious and will brush you off faster than a HB10.

Basically, no matter what your looks are and what your inner game is, start with anyone really. The way you're subconsciously seeing this is right though; you think about trying with UBs thinking you don't really care what the outcome is, you're not thinking about FClosing them. Apply the same thing with HB6-7-8 and you'll get much better results, go in there and have fun, don't think about FClosing at first.


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PostPosted: Fri May 20, 2011 1:00 pm 
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Yes. Ugly girls are easier. Most game is about evelating your status to get her to see you as the prize. However, if you're better looking than your target, you'll already have that value.

If you need assurance girls want to have sex with you then go for it. Just don't get lazy and forget progress to harder targets.


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You can work your way up to gain some confidence, sure. But the point of this whole thing is to get girls of your dreams :) I am not that obsessed by looks, so if I liked a girl, I went for it. I was doing ok with HB6-8, but now I want 9s. I'm not settling for HB7 anymore. Maybe that makes me superficial, but I really wanna get the girls I never thought I could have, the really hot ones that everybody wants. I didn't have the game and the confidence to go for them at first, but after some success it's the next logical step.

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If you do an "absolutely gorgeous" opener on a 6, it's likely to come off incongruent, like you're bullshitting her. Often times you'll get a "is this some kind of joke? / where are your friends? / is this a dare?" type response.

Better to save that level of opener for when you see an absolute STUNNER, so it feels completely authentic.

In general, it makes more sense to only approach the girls YOU honestly find hot. Once you do that HB10 at the beginning of the day, regardless of if she is interested or not, you feel pretty much invincible, and everything seems a whole lot easier. If you set your bar too low, then you may not feel nervous about the approach, but it won't help you push past that barrier, and when that 10 actually comes along, you'll STILL feel anxious anyway.

What you'll also find is that the stunning 9/10s are often incredibly nice and appreciative of your sincere compliment, and will put on less of a bitch shield than you might initially expect. They're just people too!

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good idea ... ugly girls are not easier .... thats bull - they are just nicer because they have less superficial values especially regarding looks.
it doesn't matter which opener you want, who cares about you being incongruent ? you don't want those girls anyway - well most of them.

Some 6 or 7 are insecure and will reject just because you intimidate them too much with your game and confidence, so don't ask yourself why you get rejected.

i don't agree with ryan tho , if you get rejected by the first girl you approach AND she is a hot 10 (a girl you want) your state will go down. If you game up ''ugly'' girls you don't care because you don't want them in the first case and your good state wand confidence will go up wether they rejct you or not.

i want you also to make a switch in thinking ... instead of gaming ugly girls to get into the zone so you can get that HB10 - Just try to have fun and offer value by entertaining. i think its unhealthy to stick to labels like ugly and looks in general because it could prevent you from approaching.

if you don't care about looks you also care less if she's hot or not thus you have way less AA when approaching a so called 10.

some so called 10's do have too much make-up on ... seriously ... some 10s would be 7s without make up and those tight clothes. You would be glad you gamed a 10 untill you wake up next to her in the morning to find out shes only a 7 lol.

just don't value judge people based on superficial values because people will do it back , only dicks and jerks value judge people.

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When i approach a 9 or 10 in the street i think its better because im not to fussed if she rejects me if a 6 rejects me then i think it will be alot harder.
an yes it sounds more sincere if you go with a direct opener like that.
also im guessing if you start off high then you will advance more quickly as you will get use to talking to the high class girls.


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i was also thinking that 'practising' on UB is a good idea, i have EA (Escalation anxiety) just because a girl is hot so lowering my standards i think will help.


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No dude no!

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Fuck no! But I bet shooting that AK 47 makes it easier to to a water gun!

Will killing a million ants make it any easier to kill a real fuckin person? I bet killing a person makes killing ants look like farting an laughing.

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