hey, i am stuck in this part.

I could open, but i stuck in attractions. I can carry on convo, but i dont know how to move it forward, if we use MM, it suppose to attract them, then build comfort.

I guess once the girl is attracted, i could just kino, talk in comfort. But I cant get attractions cause me to get alot of flake.

I dont use any routine, I try to be natural, i start with opener, then sometime I will do cold read, then fluff abit, then into comfort - like exchange name, what u do, bla bla.

How to turn things around ? please i need some help.

To get attraction out of her you want too use things like dhv, push pull, fluff talk, and c&f. And once she's attracted to you, you tell her that you are attracted to her. Then you move on to the comfort phase. And that's where your cold reading and ESP and things like that come in.

Wait. Nvm what am I thinking. Lol. Cold reads and ESP come in the second step of the comfort phase. The first step of the comfort phase is basically a relaxed vibe and a lot of fluff talk. You want to find out what you and her have in common in this phase.

yeah, my attraction part need massive improvements, i tend to just get into building comfort.

I did try to be cocky & funny, but its just very basic steps i do. Fluff talk is okay, but I really never pay attention to DHV. If you say you going overseas , is it DHV ? Push n pull - never try that before. I really like if i get IOI from girls, while conciously doing stuff. Did get IOI one time from my gf, by just being talkative and by using some comfort routine. Another time, just by being confident and using c & f, i know when i get IoI, the hired gun write her num for me without me asking. But I still feel things are lacking...because I am not able to consistently do this. Any further help for this ?

You probably wanna do c&f dhv and push pull. pu is not a bunch of different ways to get a girl. Its a bunch of different things that work together to get a girl. And no going overseas is not dhv. You probably want to make up a dhv story.

before you go out, did you game basic plan for attractions like, after i open, i will do this, like notice smthing about her, then get into dhv story, then have a cocky n funny answer if she ask you questions, throw a neg, and include push n pull lines. Can anyone reply with some basic plan ?

The basic structure i tend to follow is the mystery method.. but i have nothing learnt by heart.

every girl is different, every situation is different

all the things you think form the basic plan are like orbiters in my mind, orbiting my conscious mind, waiting to be used on a need-to-use basis.

thats how i manage to stick to a plan and yet come out as unpredictable..

if you go out enough, it all becomes a second nature and you dont think about it at a conscious level.