Oh and to answer the opening question. Yes I really believe that body composition whether too fat or too skinny is the ultimate attraction killer.

IF you are healthy, vigorous, not disfigured or deformed, not ridiculously short or over the top tall and are clean and groomed, you are attractive.

People who are healthy and vigorous and of normal size and shape are innately attractive to the opposit sex.

People who are unhealthy and diseased (obesity or amaciated are both diseased states) are unattractive.

Think of it this way "attractive" is a state where the species is OK with your genes passed on to the next generation.

Whether someone who is 6'2" is more attractive than someone who is 5'6" or someone with blond hair and blue eyes vs someone who has brown&brown or someone with bulging biceps is more attractive than someone with a 6-pack is just a matter of degree and personal preference.

If he walked into a room you wouldn't recognize him. He's the actor that would tell you I was the guy in so and so movie and you would say, "Oh yeah I recognize you."

You're right though. I think even a little bit of fame trumps looks. But, he's got massive game and the body of Adonis. Those three things create an unstoppable combination that will literally allow you to be a male whore.

One of my friend who hasnt study pick up or anything like that gets about 50 lays per year and he is vastly over weight. Thing that pisses me off is that he doesnt even need to try. He just goes under the radar and every girl is his friend and then he just bangs them. Ofc they still stay friends after that but still.

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slips under radar and can successfully get out of friend zone for the lay. sounds like a master plan. but it probably does a different type of work instead of straight gaming.

I cant really tell how he does it. It is very annoying indeed. He knows how to make people feel good and is extremely talented socially. I have some other natural friends too but they are good looking.

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To get back to the OPs comment, I would say you need to cut back on the beer drinking when you go out. First of all, its probably whats contributing to your weight gain but also, most women do not find a drunken slob attractive.

If you cut back on the drinking and do some exercise like some others have said previously, that will help you drop some of the excess weight. After you get down to a more "attractive" weight in your eyes, you'll feel much more confident and can go slay as much hot tail as you want.

Good luck.

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Like i said i believe it takes a totally different amount of work to be done in order to slip under radar and f close the girls. It's a good tactic no doubt but like I said it is more work than straight gaming. Though I can't knock the guy as you tell me he gets results so the results speak for themselves...

Returning to the OP your post title "does being fat kill attraction?" is proven not to be 100% true, is it an uphill battle? Sure I would think so because as someone said above even big girls know they can be used up by better looking guys. But is it an automatic loss for every girl you will approach? No it isn't as I have said before if you approach a 10 you will definitely get shot down barring crazy game or luck on your side.

Does looking good make you more attractive to women? of course it does, not just because you are easy on the eyes but also because it comes with a sense of confidence knowing that it is easier for you to game than a guy that may not be as good looking. Now if you have no game and you look good you can flounder in a set and may be able to pick up the pieces but you do run the same risk of losing the set.

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Quick fixes are cop-outs. Nothing will ever match the power of diet and exercise.

Look at it this way... There's 20 chicks at the bar 17 are fAt, 3 are in shape. Which one are you gonna go for?

And I wouldn't say it's the extra pounds per say but it's the way you percieve yourself now that you have gained some extra pounds. You lost some confidence( hence the reason your making this post) and now your posture and body language isn't as attractive as it was before because you don't feel as attractive.

My advce would be go just lose the weight anyway. Why not? You'll look and feel heathier. Who doesn't want that. Wether it gets you more pussy or not. Be heathly and active.

Fuze

To be fair being overweight is something thats solved with hard work. You could lose all of that in a year.

Have a read of a few articles on this website bodybuilding.com

Great stuff for getting in shape and if you started losing weight and seeing results you'd naturally feel more confident which would do great things to your game.

A few tips, calorie count and reduce those daily calories by 300, go out walking lots and get yourself an exercising bike twice a day, moring on an empty stomach and evening also on an empty stomach. Don't go running just walk and use your bike.

Low intensity cardio like walking and biking burns fat quicker than running.

Luca

LOL Your using a FAMOUS person to compare? WOW! Just saying that is a terrible comparison. If we seen him in numerous major Hollywood roles, how do you know she just didn't want to fuck a famous guy? Based on the fact that he said he was narcissistic, it wouldn't surprise if he was lying about many incidents as well. People like that tend to inflate their ego by lying to others. I'm sure your convinced he didn't lie, and he wouldn't but that would also be a lie because everyone lies.

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Looks and weight doesnt matter at all. Im a chick and the guy im seeing used to be morbidly obese, it is true, I didnt know him very well back then but I know a few (like 10 girls) that was obsessed with him.

His game is breathtaking, he is quick of the mark and has the charm.
He had a gastric bypass operation and he has this skin hanging on his belly still and on his arms, if I would see that on a guy on TV or something id be disgusted but as mentioned earlier, it is just the first 3 minutes of convo that really matters and if u play it right from the start you're in. No matter how heavy u are.

Alright guys I'm fat, though most say I hold it well. I'll make the rest of your numbers look a bit better. I'm 5'7 1/2 inches(that's right added that half lol) and 210, I do have shoulders to help me carry the weight well. Sorry but although weight can limit your opportunities, it shouldn't limit the around of success you have.

I've been at the pool in my complex with Models, University of Utah Cheerleaders, and other cute girls(students mostly) at my pool and I got just as much attention as anyone else. In fact I got more then most of the guys at the pool, I got numbers at the pool. Invitations to hang out. Dates for concerts. I promise I'm not a pretty man with my shirt off, yet somehow I successfully look like an attractive mate by a pool.

Sorry but weight has nothing to do with it. If you have an attractive personality, make people smile, and are generally a cool cat you'll be fine. Carry yourself with proper body language and increase your attention easily. I even had one of the starting O-linemen from the U (one that would have been drafted if he wanted to play in the NFL but chose to keep his body from the wear and tear of the NFL), tell me that I looked like a man any woman should want their babies from. I still consider it quite the ego boost, this guy sat around alpha personalities all the time and gave me a very big compliment. When I asked for what he meant, he was referring to my demeanor, in other words my body language.

I told that story to show that how you feel about yourself is sent to everyone through your body language. So when you feel low value you send that message to everyone. Those women that you aren't getting attention from are getting the message you are sending loud and clear, I'm low value. Broadcasting low value is how we show our confidence level when you don't feel good about your weight or status as a mate more specifically.

Sure your weight may make you a less desirable mate, but that is only initially. I don't think that you can be amazing with girls as an excessively overweight man but you certainly don't have to be stacked with a six pack. I'm not this ridiculously physically fit guy but I get a lot of signs of attraction. I get hit on at least a few times a day when I spend more then a couple hours in public, and that is without me approaching or hitting on them. Most women find a sense of a humor, intelligence, and confidence more important then your weight. If they are that obsessed with your aesthetics I wouldn't worry about impressing them anyways they are likely someone you don't want to be around because they will dwarf your confidence.

Going scientific now. Another reason you probably got more attention as a more trim you is you were eating healthy and/or working out. You make yourself feel better when you work out by increasing your endorphins making you feel better and more relaxed. Eating correct also helps balance your chemical level and make it less erratic (sugars anyone?).

Two natural Alpha Characteristics(in 2 different studies) is a higher dopamine level, and lower glucocorticoids. Stress is one of the main characteristics of the AFC. They aren't relaxed and always worried, in the AFC's case it's normally regarding status and indirectly or directly (depending on there point of view) their appearance as an attractive mate.

So all this means is loosen up have some fun and you'll advertise yourself as a better more attractive alpha mate. It in general advertises yourself as better mate. So when you were working out and eating healthy you were probably a lot let stressed out as well. Your body and mind were less uptight and you advertised this to everyone. I'd recommend meditation or self hypnosis for 10 minutes everyday along with going back to weight loss. It'll help loosen you up and get you that attention you were getting.

Sorry for this long post, I'm a why guy so I answer the why part of things and then you can sort it out from there.

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