I started this pua stuff yesterday, and it was horrible. I tried 5 girls. After the fifth, I didn't have the spirit to go anymore.

The first and the 3rd girl I went after both rejected me and said it was because I was ugly. I mean, they didn't say the same thing but they both didn't want to date me because they thought I was too ugly.

Another girl just rolled her eyes and walked away.

Another was with her friends, so I decided to go for it. There were three of them. They started laughing after I suggested coffee. I just walked away after that.

The last girl just said no.

Is it always going to be this hard?

That sounds brutal. You must be really young. It sounds like what girls did in 3rd grade.

I've had a girl tell me that I wasn't what she was looking for physically. She admitted I was good looking, but this particular girl preferred fucking short stocky guys. I'm tall and have an athletic build. I told her I was built like the rest where it mattered.

How old are you? You might very well not be the most attractive guy, but if a girl says that to your face she's got problems.

Keep pushing forward and studying. You're not going to be James Bond in a day if you just started.

Its not always going to be this bad, remember its always darkest before dawn.

I would suggest working on body language techniques and pick up some new clothes.

body language: don't walk right in and face the set. Try looking over your shoulder and have your body facing away. Like not being too confronting.

clothes: find clothes that fit really well. its better to have less more expensive clothes than a wide range of clothes that aren't that nice.

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lol sounds like my first few pickups ... and im good looking btw

i decided not to pickup woman after those first few rejects .... i decided to talk to people and try to have fun conversations.

when you are starting you aren't congruent yet , chicks sense you are trying to pick them up.

first try to talk to people , dont be polite and dont invite , just be cocky , funny and unpredictable.

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Lmmfao...harsh bro...super harsh...well fuck those five girls who gives a shit?! Don't let it bum u out...figure out your best look n go n just be confident n laugh it off. If you can't talk to girls...learn to talk to people in general...just go find ppl n ask them the time or anything. Get yourself out their and comfortable. You probably were like hey I read some pua shit n this seems easy enough n then fell on ur face. Its mo big deal though. Keep at it. You will realize it doesn't matter what anyone thinks. Work on ur inner game n let the putter be a reflection of ur inner. Don't worry buddy...at least u got the like worst possible outcome first...what do u have to be scared of??? It can't get worse than that, so just have fun n keep improving.

ok so i now know how the girls reacted yo your approach, but what are you approaching with? Are you opening indirect or direct? do you go straight for the date after introductions? Are you groomed well?

Im not convinced its because the girls are mean, i think the problem might be in your approach, but i dont know how you are approaching, all i know is how they reacted.

it will not always be this hard, the irony is that the game get easier as you go on. I remember thinking opening was hard, but after you do a couple hundred times you realize it isnt that hard and that you are actually a good opener. its just the same as everything else

just think of something that you are good at At one point in your life you werent good at, but through PRACTICE & PERSISTENCE you were able to get good at it. Pick up is the same thing. Dont give up after 5 rejections. Look at how you approached and ask yourself what could i have done better. Then after you critique yourself ask some people on the forum what they think you could have done better

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Realize the POWER of BELIEF

If you want to be straightforward, you really have to have the right mindset. Otherwise, well, you see what happened. You didn't control the situation, the girls immediately had the intuitive reflex "he doesn't get it". It's simple as that. Or you are working below the radar, or you need to have the skills and confidence to pull it off.

Basic conclusion: if you want to play it open, be honest, confident and very clear. Do not mix the two approaches, it sends the signal of inconsistency. Basically you give the signal "Hé, I want to be the seducer, but I'm too shy, so I'll just hope they find me nice". That approach never works. You can compare it with a guy who makes eye contact with a girl, the girl approaches the guy and the guy starts to stutter.

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EVERYONE READ THIS. I REPEAT, EVERYONE READ THIS.

Rejection doesn't mean shit.

Look, I don't know about you, but I am one of those extra muscular ripped guys with dark, short, spiky hair who knows how to dance, draw, sing, play guitar, etc. Not to be arrogant or anything, but I am one of those legitimate hot ass guys who can model and whatnot. I've had plenty of girls reject me by saying I'm ugly, the key is to NEVER EVER look sad or disappointed. Don't even respond to them calling you ugly, don't laugh about it, don't make a joke about it, just IGNORE it with a smirk on your face! Move closer and caress them or compliment them saying, "You smell nice.." The second key is that you have to do all of that as if you already know the girl wants to fuck you, it has to be seductive.

And guess what, after I got rejected I tried again the next day/next hour, etc. and I managed
to get the girl.

Sucks to be you tbh

I think like the worst ever rejection for me came from some last week where when I qualified the girl too early she didnt qualify and it is first time ever that girl didnt quality so I didnt know what to do and got blown out pretty fast.

Also one of the day game stuff was when girl just didnt want to talk to me. She said a couple of words but was clearly annoyed that I approached her.

Girls have never said that Im ugly or anything like that I wonder what the hell you say to them to make that kind of reaction.

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some people are born with and some people have to learn it. Even then there are some "rough" or "dry" days. Don't give up hope, just about anything gets better with practice so keep up don't lose faith. After all the alternative is saying good bye to what makes you a man lol.

people don't reject you ... they reject your approach , if you had approach in a different way you might succeed.

people don't know you so there is no way they can reject your personality.
And of course there are alot of bad people who aren't open minded or nice at all.

seriously i had and still get mad IOIs and flirtation signals from woman but when i approached them they blow me out - sucks when it happens but it can happen. Sometimes it doesn't work out.

i even picked up and k-closed girls whom didn't remember me 2 weeks later. I even got rejected harshly by girls which i picked up weeks later.

dude ... even if you are ugly .. insecure and you do sucks balls .... if you keep at it you will get a girl no matter what. Someone i know really sucks with girls and people in general but he did pick up a girl who just got dumped by her boyfriend.

there are a few realistic outcomes :

1. 9 out of 10 woman reject you , however there will be about 5 or 10 % which will like you for whatever reason it could be their boyfriend dumped them or they are plain insecure. those 10 % are also made up of super hot girls btw.

2. the rejects make you stronger in life and you develop character.

3. you really stick at it and work at it , goes to seminars and reads alot of material... you will get better over time which allows you to pickup woman on command.

4. you work on it here and there and becomes a good conversator , your social skill become very good and you can open and vibe with many woman. maybe you don't have the skill to get every woman you want , your chances are still 65 % higher than before and you will make alot of friends.

when i started out i was number1 ....after a while i become number 2 ... then number 4 to get at point 3.

the difference between point 4 and point 3 is the mindset , you need to keep working at inner game. the number of woman you approach is not important ... it's the process that matter - the ideal number ito approach is 1. 1 good approach can learn you more than 10 bad approaches.

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this is a good post

That's it? 5 times and you're upset?

Dude, I've opened 100 sets in the last month alone. Something like 250-300 girls total.

And yes, I've been rejected, laughed at, humiliated, ignored, told to fuck off, yelled at, had cigarette smoke blown in my face, had to deal with angry boyfriends, angry older sisters, been told I'm the ugliest person she's ever seen, been told my outfit looks like shit, had girls yell out that I'm a creep as loud as they can, been told "that's the stupidest chat-up line i've ever heard", I could go on forever.

Doesn't stop me. I'm making progress.

Write field reports, or keep a diary, watch your progress. You're doing this for YOU, not for the girls.

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