I find myself being opened by girls instead of the other way around. This is usually during the day when I'm minding my own business. I end up giving a very minimal response or none at all because my mindset is just not there. Next time I do get opened, I'm going to see what I can do to keep the interaction going. I'll post what I learn.

In the mean time, does anybody else have the same experience in being opened by girls? What do you do? What works and doesn't work? Post your stories here.

When they open you, you just steal the frame and take control of the situation. Then once you have shown that you are alpha, you run normal game, but since she opened you, you don't have to worry about an opener, you can typically get the ball rolling well by negging her if she asked you something that is obviously an excuse to talk to you, ie "You don't care about that, you just came over here cause you wanted to talk to me, I know your game "

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Unfortunately not usually, lol.

So it's official: being opened appears to be my superpower.

Tonight I was sitting with two friends and noticed a drink next to me. The glass was full and I was parched. Absolutely nobody was around us so I assumed this was up for grabs. I picked it up and started examining it to see if there was lipstick or lip marks so I could drink it! Then I hear over my shoulder "that's mine" and I'm quick to laugh and offer the drink to what ends up being HBOlderWoman. She's actually pretty attractive, but definitely in her 40s. To my surprise (and my friends) she sits down with us and starts qualifying herself to us, telling her why she's in town, about growing up in LA, about her recent breakup. I teased her a lot about the drink (which ended up being water) and I was so tempted to keep the comfort going to see where it could go. I have zero experience with older women, and I didn't want to actually start gaming her when she just wanted to have a good time out, so I opted out of that. When she got up and left her drink behind I teased her about keeping it safe for her. Big laugh. It felt really good making her laugh and giving her a good time, without any kind of "lay" intent. And for the first time in my history of being opened I was able to keep some good conversation rolling. Good times!

It's pretty funny Rye. When I realized "Oh shit I'm being opened again", your advice just popped into my head and I went for it. Mehow said that once you're in the moment, all the stuff you've studied (or even just read on a board) will be right there for you to use. And that was definitely the case for tonight.

The one problem you had there is that you said you didn't run game on her because she was just out to have fun that night. What do you think interacting with a guy that can make her feel all those things that a woman wants to feel is? Probably not fun?

Women are sexual creatures, much more so than most men realise. They WANT men that are capable of running proper game to do so, because they WANT to be turned on and taken home.

Don't ever think that because a girl is out having fun, that she doesn't want to talk to you, because you are the best thing that is gonna happen to her that night.

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"The 'Brick Walls' are there to allow you to prove how badly you want something!" ~ Randy Pausch

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Not sure what you're saying. I know that she wanted to talk to me and we had great fun together. It probably was the highlight of her night. What I didn't want to do is run game as if I'm trying to close her. Throughout the conversation she was throwing in her logistics, and I wasn't sure whether or not she was trying to signal that she's up for something or not. When I think about it now, she could have been. In the end, I decided I wasn't going to go down that road. She was clearly my mom's age and I'm off a recent breakup. I wasn't ready for that intense of a rebound.

That's different from "She was just out to have fun, so I didn't want to run game on her."

Reasons are reasons, but what you said before was an excuse. I personally have run game on friends of my parents and intend to again in the future, probably when I go home for xmas. Nothing wrong with an older woman if she's hot, she's got experience and knows what she wants, so she is gonna be better than most young girls in bed. Also, coming off a breakup, you've got a bit of that vulnerability that mature women love in younger guys and its a great way to get over the breakup, to have some fun gaming.

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"The 'Brick Walls' are there to allow you to prove how badly you want something!" ~ Randy Pausch

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Alright I won't argue semantics. I'll keep your advice in mind for the next time I'm opened by an older woman LOL.

3 excellent reasons you SHOULD have . . . "run game as if I'm trying to close her."

Well this connects to my being opened dillemma. When it's going too well, and I'm not fighting an uphill battle, I don't trust in it. I expect there to be more difficulty. This has a lot to do with how I approach life. Obviously I need to change that way of thinking.

I dont understand the point to any of this..

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"I've learned that people will forget what you said, people will forget what you did, but people will never forget how you made them feel"

Sweetheart, you gotta remember, we aren't all up to your level of game. Some guys even screw up on girls that say she'd fuck him (oops) . So you gotta nurture the PUA in them, not tell them that its simple and they should just get it. Bring out the inner mother in you. I bet you'd make a totaly MILF .

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"The 'Brick Walls' are there to allow you to prove how badly you want something!" ~ Randy Pausch

~ Rye

Chelsea . . . and . . . "sweetheart"? In the same breath?

LOL, J/K.

Yeah, she is sweet, but don't let that get out or her rep will be ruined,

Rye , I dont understand whats going on to even give advice. Im lost in this whole mess of a conversation. Go to this thread and read it out load, its a mess.

And Im surprised you would say something like that to me. I do think guys should get the basics, Im not expecting anything from anyone in this forum. I am not the best although I am one of the best

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"I've learned that people will forget what you said, people will forget what you did, but people will never forget how you made them feel"

Well, apparently hon, this guy doesn't have any idea how to handle a woman that actually opens HIM. I don't any of us that matter on here would argue that, lol.