HB 8.5. D1 was an upscale lounge. Got about 15 min with her before the place closed (2 am). My game was very high energy and fun (I had to match her energy level and fun and it was high as hell!). I did a ton of kino, right out the gates! Received alot of kino IOI's. Number closed. I want a D2 bad, for a potential LTR. I'm 32 years old, I'm guessing she's prolly about 29. All of the text responses were immediate back-to-back unless otherwise stated.

Text:

The night of:

Me: Hey HB8.5, it's Paul. Save this baby doll!! Hahahaha!! Are you going to the afterparty?

Her response the next afternoon (this was on Mother's Day):

Her: Sorry we decided to grab food instead and called it a night. How was the afterparty?

Me: Lotta Gays, strippers, deadbeats and pill shovelers! LOLz!

Her: Haha, thought so. So many few places in this city for good afterhours...

Me: So what r u doing? Spending time with your kid!?

Her: Haha... my kids were my friends last night I called my Mom. Did you? I think I'll finally go to sleep. Too much bubbly previously (btw Hope you didn't have to pay a $20 cover last night)!

Me: Yup. Called her and my Grandma. I paid but since I'm new to the city, I'm not caring as much about that because I'm meeting fun people!

Me again: I can't decide if u were kewl or fun yet though. Still thinkin about it...

Her: What's your definition of kewl and fun?

Me: I dunno. I'm flirting with you duh. Can't you see this is my way of empowering u to hang out with me in person?! Umm Hellooooo . You know I'm kewl so I'm sure you want to. This is just small talk

Her: Silly you!

Me: Yea I'm lying here with my cat right now and we're flirting with girls on Facebook and text!

Her: Awesome duo! U and your wingcat!

Me: Yup. He said You = crazy.

Her: Nah just a goofball

Me: Ok goofball.. so I'm gonna line up some kewl things to get myself into and want you to tag along. When r u free? ps... (I dunno if I trust you yet but I'm smiling about it atleast)! Hahaha!



** all of a sudden no response. No nothing!

Shit Test

24 hours later she responds:

Her: Haha okay. Let me know and I'll bring along my friends as well!

Okay guys... so How did I do?? I haven't texted her back since she sent me that one this afternoon. Should I wait exactly 24 hours like she did? I'm trying not to be overzealous and blow it (like I tend to because I'm very impatient and type-A). Please advise...

Kids? eew...

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Yea, lame. I kinda wanted to get that out of her so I wouldn't be wasting my time from that point forward. Therefore, I slipped in the question, incognito style, into my text since it was mother's day! Hahaha

Anybody? This is my first text critique I've ever put up here!

Don't wait exactly 24 hrs, she will know you're getting back at her. Either txt her back in the within 10 hrs or wait till 36 hrs, more effective.
As the conversation went, it seems that you jumped her loops a lot, you don't need to answer every question she asked, and it looks bad when you do that within a single txt. It gives off the feeling that you're the one trying hard here.

For example this part : Next time just pick one question that you can later lead on to a sexual frame.
As for the shit test, IMO i'd reply " Oops, I made some other plan since i didn't hear from you. Next time then, but there won't be {insert something fun, outrageous } That was a one time offer ".
One more thing, keep the txt more short and bold.

Okay lol, I'll put in my 2cp:

If I were in your position, I'd drop her from your thoughts for a few days and get at her again soon and get her to meet up. As far as your conversation, it didn't have any kind of fluidity to it so when you finally asked her out, it was almost out of the blue.
I'll take these two texts as an example of playing it too safe and not taking advantage of the opportunity to be funny or escalate. Im reading a bunch of very conservative texts that dont really progress the conversation so you basically HAVE to be blunt asking her out which usually comes out awkward.

Now, that first text you sent was grade school material. You're a grown man, little cutesy texts like that just come across as weird when a 29 year old mother gets them. Especially when you sent it right after the other one to keep the conversation going.

Im not trying to bust your balls just being honest. Nothing wrong with having a gameplan.

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Me: Hey HB8.5, it's Paul. Save this baby doll!! Hahahaha!! Are you going to the afterparty? youre already lowering your value, asking if shes coming to the after party...its like you cant wait to see her already. she needs to be in those shoes not you. you shoulda stopped after doll

Her response the next afternoon (this was on Mother's Day):

Her: Sorry we decided to grab food instead and called it a night. How was the afterparty?

Me: Lotta Gays, strippers, deadbeats and pill shovelers! LOLz!

Her: Haha, thought so. So many few places in this city for good afterhours...

Me: So what r u doing? Spending time with your kid!? I would not have busted this one out. U can find this shit out later. your trying to warm her up, build comfort, SEDUCE her, not find out her life story


Her: Haha... my kids were my friends last night I called my Mom. Did you? I think I'll finally go to sleep. Too much bubbly previously (btw Hope you didn't have to pay a $20 cover last night)!

Me: Yup. Called her and my Grandma. I paid but since I'm new to the city, I'm not caring as much about that because I'm meeting fun people! yea you answered too many of her questions here.

Me again: I can't decide if u were kewl or fun yet though. Still thinkin about it... more of this is needed, you want to show her that your cool as fuck, and your the prize, and you are giving HER a chance here

Her: What's your definition of kewl and fun?

Me: I dunno. I'm flirting with you duh. Can't you see this is my way of empowering u to hang out with me in person?! Umm Hellooooo . You know I'm kewl so I'm sure you want to. This is just small talk horrible horrible horrible horrible. this is probly where it went wrong for you. she was trying to have fun with you by asking what your definition was and you ruined it by admitting that you are just trying to be funny or silly and you also admitted that you are openly trying to game her. rediculous text

Her: Silly you! this is her being shocked

Me: Yea I'm lying here with my cat right now and we're flirting with girls on Facebook and text! another horrible text. you havent set up the frame correctly to bust this text out. she probably thinks youre serious

Her: Awesome duo! U and your wingcat! shes tooling you....

Me: Yup. He said You = crazy.

Her: Nah just a goofball another short text from her. its almost over at this point. absolutely 0 fun for her

Me: Ok goofball.. so I'm gonna line up some kewl things to get myself into and want you to tag along. When r u free? ps... (I dunno if I trust you yet but I'm smiling about it atleast)! Hahaha! Lol you try to ask her out when she is completley NOT wanting or ready for it. then she says "il bring friends" effectively putting you in the friend zone, liekly because of your text game

Wow! Thanks guys for the brilliant detailed responses! I guess I have alot to practice!

A couple simple rules that I believe will help out youre text game a lot:

1. Don't use smileys, emotocons, or any form of exaggerated emotional behavior. It comes off as you're way too happy to talk to her, which comes across as needy

2. Keep your text messages shorter than hers. There's no need to answer all of her questions nor do you need to write a story. You're the one of high value.

3. Don't say bye or ill talk to you later. Text her back to back a couple times then leave your phone and go do something. Remember, you're the one who's busy and has an awesome life, so don't spend all your time talking to her when you can be meeting new girls

Note: Something that works really well is to do roleplaying. Saying something like I can't wait to marry you then leave you with half (credit to David D.) and have her play along with it is a ton of fun. You can lead the conversation and ultimately transition smoothly into hey I'm doing blah blah on Thursday you should come.

Hope that helps

^ Kids. This can happen to you. So, please. Dont become a PUA nerd. Together....we can fight this.

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