Cool man, thanks.

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^ You can tease her if she doesn't give you her last name.

I doubt most girls will even ask "Why do you want it (last name)?"

I dunno man, I've seen girls that get weird when you ask their first names!

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Stardust

Get intro'd to everyone, then go back to target and say "wait whats your last name?" Make it sound curious, like there is a reason you are asking. When she says her last name say something like "ahh ok" make it sound like you thought she was someone you might know but isnt. If she asks why or if you just want to add it in say " You look a bit like a guy i know"

Then proceed to call her by her last name

Or, if she has already has said her first name and then after a while, you ask her whats her name. She goes: Its Amber, Ive already told you. Or: its Amber, you forgotten it already?
Then you go: I know its Amber silly, I meant your last name.

in response to the skepticism for the last name, it could be seen as an attempt to FB creep. way to play it off cool and cocky funny is a spin of a line a friend gave me "Okay because the other week my friend met a girl here with that first name and she was a psycho. You arn't a psycho too are you?"

The response to that will most likely be "haha, no I'm not psycho". I can't imagine anyone saying "no I'm not psycho, my name is Amber Jones"

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I am just tossing out something that gives you plausible deniablity.

[quote="Got_Rhythm"]I am still early in my Gaming life, I have yet to try this myself but I've seen my friends use this neg for years and I have only just realised it is working wonders for them. You guys have probably known about it forever but it has only just slapped me in the face.

It can be used on any HB, and I can do it constantly with no danger of offending (unless she is really really really uptight). The theory is-

All I do is [u]always refer to the HB by their last name![/u]

Thats it! By doing that constantly, I am treating her like 'one of the guys', which she will like, but at the same time I am destroying her femininity, making her feel less feminine, less like a prize, which she wont like at all. She will simultaniously feel comfortable around me [u]and[/u] want me to find her more attractive.

Example: drinking with a group of people, one of which is a HB called Hannah Colemans.
"Hey I'm going to the bar, Colemans do you want a drink?"
"Hi Dave, have you met Colemans yet?"
"Hey Colemans, tell that great joke."

That is literally it, just use their last name like you would with guys.
I suspect this also has a cool side effect of making the HB less of a prize in [u]my[/u] mind aswell, allow me to relax more and be more confident. I believe there is a real shift of power all through this simple tool.

I am going to try this next time I am out, does anyone have any thoughts on it?[/quote]


I've done it before. Eventually they will get frustrated and start calling you by your last night. Thats when you know you've got into their heads

Just used this one last night, works wonders. Love it

As an amateur I do want to contribute to this forum:

I always use the 'spit'.

During a conversation, I pretend that she has spit on me. I pull a weird face, and try to wipe my cheek. Usually the girl is apologising, and laughes, and sometimes the girls helps you with wiping (kino).

No words are needed in this one!

I did this one last night. It happened in the spur of the moment, me and a HB8 were walking into a club, and we had been teasing each other a lot. She was hanging off my arm. There were another group of girls just walking by, I quickly said to the them, "hey girls, help me get away from the crazy chick" and I pointed towards the Hb8 (in a teasing manner of course). The group of girls started smiling at me, and the HB8 was laughing and chasing me as I was pretending to get away from her.

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haha awesome . loved the neg.
thx m8

Definitely just take it literal:

you: your names Amber Whatwhy? thats a ridiculous name.
she'll correct you for sure unless shes genuinely embarassed in which case drop a shyness neg and move on as usual.

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This is something i'll use...thanks!