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PostPosted: Thu Apr 14, 2011 3:57 pm 
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My current game focuses very heavily on cocky/funny but I've been looking into the 60 Years Of Challenge method. 60 recommends that when you meet a girl and you shake hands, you do not let go until she forcibly removes her hand from yours, this is what he calls "milking the intro".
I've only just discovered this, so, I've not had a chance to field test it. My first thought about it was that I was just going to come off creepy: worst case scenario, she pulls her hand away and thinks I'm a creep; best case scenario, she keeps holding on and I feel incredibly awkward stood holding hands with her in a handshake position. It seems to me that doing something so far outside my usual game plan would dent my inner game somewhat and cause me to come off badly. What do you guys think of this? Any experiences?

Second thought was that I could adapt it more to my gaming style by holding on to her hand and then teasing her for holding on to my hand for too long i.e. making out that she's the one holding on and not me. This seems like it might defeat the impression 60's going for but it's something I'd be more comfortable doing and I think I could make it playful. What do you think of this?

Any opinions would be helpful.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 28, 2011 6:53 am 
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This actually was a creepy habit of mine back in high school, and I definitrly would not recommend this, its clearly just creepy, imagine yourself in her shoes.

Maybe go for a hug instead? If its the woman who reached for the handshake, you can just turn it into a hug. Depending on the environment you can say lets hug instead, or just do it if shes obviously gotten comfortable with you.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 28, 2011 8:39 am 
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I have a friend who is a natural. He is really suave and can just milk the intro and then move directly to kino. He moves really slowly and talks really slowly with a deep resonant voice, he's like James Bond, except he's short and bald :) But women love him. Although he unconsciously incorporates a lot of the 60's stuff, he never comes off as creepy. I think you should take what 60 is saying with a grain of salt. I don't think you should necessarily risk creepy, I think you should maybe talk more than he advocates, but still leave the tension building silence and not break it while holding a meaningful look and just throw in a smile at the end. The smile will bring some of the relief and break the tension a little, so it should be followed by heavier kino. What I noticed about this friend, because he talks so slowly with lots of pauses, it doesn't really matter what he says. There is always this great sexual tension around him, but he does break rapport lightly every now and then only to hit harder a second later. That said, he also leaves the girl after about 10 minutes of conversation and goes to mingle, he comes back later and continues the game. He never kisses them in the venue, but comes close to it and then pulls back. The reason I'm saying this is when I first read 60, I was a little bit shocked by some of the methods and couldn't see it working, or I could imagine it working, but didn't really believe it because it all just sounded too creepy. But then I realized, it's really hard to convey everything in a book. Yes, 60 emphasizes to risk creepy, but I think a lot of us get the wrong idea about what he really means. When I play out some of his methods in my head, I end up imagining a guy who looks like he's mentally retarded and doesn't say anything and I really don't think this is the guy that 60 had in mind. So after giving it a lot of thought, I realized my natural friend does 60 perfectly. What I said above is the stuff I've seen him do over and over again with great results.
Now, when he shakes the girls hand, he'll do a firm handshake, but then he will release the pressure, but not let go of the hand. He does that while he is talking or attentively listening to her with a meaningful look and a smirk. He will release her palm but immediately take her by the arm close to the elbow and throw in "mini squeezes" to emphasize some points in what he is saying. He also does the body rocking, so when he leans in to hear what the girl is saying, he'll just casually put his hand around her waist and keep it there, slightly caressing her every now and then. I've known him for more than 10 years and observed every little detail, because it was beyond me why girls found him so attractive :) Now I understand hehe. Hope this helped!

P.S. I think you can adapt any method to whatever you feel comfortable, but teasing too much will break some rapport. The emphasis is on too much. The beauty of 60 is that you don't have to concentrate so much at negging and smart comebacks.


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