DAY 16th Continued:And Day 17th :

IB: Ya , i have read the book , its good.
If you are an enterpreneur.
Me: ya , i have my own startup.
Any Good book to read.
IB: Try this (some book)
Me: Hey have you tried P.S I love you.
IB: ya, i have read it and watched it too.
Me: Try Love story
she dint get it at 1st
IB: The love story
Me: No only, Love story.

Couldn progress much.

She left.

2-set while standing on the railing, stood beside them , spoke on phone, than turned to my left , over the shoulders, i asked for Hyderabad House(Food joint outside the mall). An IB8 was so into helping me that i almost felt sorry for lying to her.
Dint know how to take it forward.

Did a few more nothing interesting.


Sunday :

Was not in a mood , totally down, dint want to open , had no energy in the body.
I did 4 set in landmark,
1 Girl seem interested to talk but for his brothers interfered...

Did a IB9 while standing in a queue to buy a book. She took a gloden color book.
ME:Hey is that for coffee table book.
IB: Na i like to read.
ME: The color looks like itd be great for coffee.
IB: ya.
(Very less eye contact for me, infact hardly any).
She had many twinkels(comic book) in her hand.
Me: Are you a teacher.
IB: No, I own a school.
ME: Seemed like. with so many twinkels.
Thought shed smile or or something. she dint react.

The rest 2 were nothing just asking which author was good ,
Jeffrey archer or jhon grisam. Couldn take both forward.

Thats it for the weekend.

Next weekend in chennai . Ill try to sarge there

One general advice after reading most of your encounters: be more provocative in a humorous way. Be more witty, say something completely unexpected. This does not work with "dumb" women, they lack sense of humor. It's a way of selecting women.

Hi! Imar , I am not really pushing my limits i think.
I should be cocky and funny, even if the set blows me.

Looking good and acting good is so much in me that i am not able to push forward.
Infact even while sarging sometimes i have to fight my moral diliema. And maybe that shows up.

Ill start by some cold readings and maybe a few cocky and funny lines. And lets see the results.

use more STATEMENTS,less questions.....

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I'll start off with a question first . . . What's in your mind when you approach? If I had to guess, I'd say that you think about the opener a whole lot and then you approach? You're milking the opener for way too long. . . (opener topic going on and on . . .)

You might have read Grand Master's thread on the number close before but take another look: what-is-the-best-way-to-ask-for-her-pho ... 79039.html

1. For now, all you need to do with the opener is to get a girl to engage in a conversation with you; you've already proved to yourself that you can do this so let's move on. And I know you'd love to seamlessly bridge all the shifts in conversation like a stand-up comedian but it doesn't have to be this way. Once 'two strangers' realize that it's OK to converse with one another, you can always change topics abruptly, especially directly after the opener.

2. You're a brick wall. She answers a question and you just move on to another question. Just wondering . . . is this just a recent 'pu habit' you just picked up or do have a general habit for disregarding other people's replies? You do not have to be serious, have a great opinion, or even offer a related reply but you MUST ACKNOWLEDGE her conversation; not doing so is a 100% request for her to turn her face and walk away. Any kind of acknowledgment is better than a continuous pounding of questions like a heartless professor. Examples:
Well, I'm not a dermatologist but you're skin looks fine to me. Beautiful. Delicious... I wonder if delicious is a real medical terminology . . . but then I suppose the Doctor would have to lick his patients . .
Ah ha! So you are a spokesperson for North Korean Chocolates?
Ahh . . So you're fortune tellers! Wait . . wait. . (close your eyes and concentrate) I'm seeing tealeaves. You read tea leaves.

Just some dumb ideas but I was attempting to be overtly 'dumb' just to show that anything works . . . as long as you acknowledge her.

3. In terms of 'cold reads', there are cold reads and there are cold reads. If you're the sensitive type, there's a lot you can do but if you're going to just give her a line, then it's far better to be the whacky/specific reader like the above examples in #2. "I have a knack for this type of thing. Wait . . shhh . . . I'm getting 'research' from you. You're an anthropologist. No? Urologist. Mixologist? You are a 'gist' of some sort aren't you. . . I knew it.

Nice job with the number close. Way to 'gut it out'!

Moral dilemma? How so? Humorous provocation is just a tool to get her into your frame. When she's into your frame, you practically can do whatever you want as long as you are not being an asshole. You create excitement, she's having a fun time, everyone is happy. I call that an ethical duty when you meet new people.

Ya its exactly , just before i enter i think of how to start a conversation and how to take it forward.
Now that you say it , i realise i ask a lot of questions without listening and taking the conversation forward. That is a bad habit i have carried all my life.
I had assumed that asking question after question was the way to take the conversation forward.
Na, i am not a sensitive kind, more of a guy who thinks with analytical brain , even in a relationship.(one reason i messed up my past)
Thanks, i have slowed down of late(no #closes) but the conversation time has definitely improved .

Ill keep things in mind next time i sarge.

Happy sarging.

Being an indian i always wanted to have an ideal love story , Sarging kinda feels odd and it feels like maybe we are doing wrong. Something against our moral value. As much as i try to fight , i carry some of this baggage and effects my performance.
Eventually ill get over it though.

ill push myself for sure, and come up with good funny 1 liner to get her in mood

In other words, you feel somewhat that you don't give enough respect to the girls. 1. They have the same needs like we do. The image of the prudent woman is something created by men. 2. Sexuality isn't a dirty thing. 3. While playing the game, you are just accentuating your own unique personality. You just shout in body language "I'm a great guy, let's have a good time" 4. Just be honest, don't be a jerk = having respect. The bodily thing is not an assault on her integrity, you both have the same needs.

I can't tell you anything about cultural differences. It goes without saying that they do influence your game. You're not going to imitate a pimp while talking to a religious person. You know what I mean.

And yes, you can be the romantic, ideal guy in a relationship. The goal is to know more girls, so you can choose your special one.

DAY 18 :


I did 1 good set on friday.
Saturday was out of town for business. No time.
Sunday had 2 hours , Did 6 set . only 1 was a bit interesting.

Friday:
Was Going to ch..... for business. Was waiting for the bus in the waiting room.
Saw an empty seat between 2 girls. If not for PUA i would not have dared to sit there lol..
1 was target(IB8) , spoke to the distraction 1st(Say UG)

ME:(to UG) Hi! Where are you upto?
UG : bla bla.
ME: oh so you not going to ch.... .
Than i turned over to Target. I thought it made sense as i did not approach the target directly. (Target playing with mobile)

ME: HI! So Are you going to chennai?
IB: Ya ( Still playing with mobile not showing much interest)
ME: When is your bus than ?
IB: Dont know.
ME: Are you from north india ?
IB: I am actually a mix of Kanadiga (a person from karnataka state) and Saurastra.
ME: Pardon, Saurastra , Dont throw me such complcated terms. and i smiled (was a playful banter. Dint work )
IB: Gujrat (a state)

I asked a few more questions .. (bad habit) she seem disinterested. than enter her mom

I choose to entertain her mom than her , that way showing a bit lack of interest on her.
ME: hi! aunty , when is your bus?
IBs Mom : They are saying 10.30.
ME: ah ok ok. (Spoke something in hindi(language). IB corrected she doesn know hindi)
ME: You look like somebody up North India( predominantly hindi speaking area)
Some more bla bla.

Enter a person , say Mr. Hulk (he sure was big )
Changed my attension to him . and spoke to Mr.Hulk for 10 min or so.
Back to IB mom: (IB had come for interveiw)

ME : So aunty how come you are accompaning her. Did she say i want mama mama come along with me or are you kinda strict i wont allow my daughter alone . It was all playfull banter and both of them bust into laughter.

A few more bla bla. Pulled her leg a few times than bye bye.( same destination, Different Bus)



Learnings :
1) Eye contact was ok. Could improve a lot.
2) I was a leaning.
3) The Conversations were long but she seemed disinterested or was affraid of mom.
4) I was asking too many questions rather than contributing to the conversation.
Should have found many common points and built comfort.
5) It was a Great chance for a # close but for her mom.

DAY 18 Continued....


Sunday:

Did 6 set , tried opening conversation with "Hi! Any interesting book to read ".

Had 1 good conversation:
Music section in a book store
(it was written best international music but had movies too)
Me: hi! Does this section has a movie or is it music only?
IB6: only music , i think.
Me: hey if you find anything about kenny g lemme know.
Spoke on and off for 2 min .
IB called her friend to the place. I decided to eject.

ME: So, ill take a leave than.
BTW, I am Illusionist
IB: I am swa.. (Name of my ex)
Shook Hands.
Bye.

Learnings:
1) My 1st time kino in any form hahaha..
2) Should shake hands much before(sometime in starting) and introduce myself.


Note:
Doing kino helps you build a bond, and i am trying it with a few girls i know when i have to put across something. it really helps.

Seems to me like you're focusing too much on yourself. Try asking open ended questions about them, from looking at your initial goals I think this will try to keep up the air of mystique, and makes it easier to judge IOIs.

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Hey Illusionist,

Can you do me a big favor and watch your mom or dad cook your favorite curry one night? Just stand out of the way, help out if they need it, and write up a recipe for me. (Also maybe a recipe for chutney)

1. I'd really appreciate a home recipe. The books I have seem restaurant based. . .

2. This is a good exercise for 'observing more' and 'speaking less'. Observe what it is they're doing, and if you're confused, ASK what's going on. Do not make unnecessary chit chat and focus on what they say and what they do. Write it down.

^This recipe is a favor for me, sourced from somebody you love, for a recipe that YOU enjoy. I hope you pay attention, focus, have fun, and do me this huge favor.

^This dynamic is missing from all your interactions. You chat about things you DO NOT CARE ABOUT. Thus you do not care about her answers. Thus you cannot add to the conversation. Thus you continue to shotgun for new topics. . . and if you continue to do this, even the most interesting people in the World will bore the hell out of you. How can they not when the only reactions you illicit from them are, "yes", "no", or "I don't know" to questions you do not care about?

@Kasabi,

I have been trying to practice as you said. I realise I don't listen and talk boring subjects.
The point that I dont feel energetic and while approaching it shows and as a negetive emotion.
Thanks for the input , Gravy recipe coming soon.