I do have enough self-confidence not to freak out every time some guy talks to my girl. I've been plenty of time in situations when girls I've just met and went to hang out with were given a lot of attention by other guys. I didn't really care.

1) Because I just met this girl and there isn't much to loose.

2) Even if I was in a relationship with a girl, it doesn't mean I'd be throwing fists at every guy she talks to.

Let's go beyond talking. Even if i approached a girl, wen to have a few drinks-and some guy STEALs her from me-not a big deal. I'd feel shitty about my game and the girl but-whatever-shit happens

I'm talking about the situation when you already have made some emotional investment, and was in a relationship with a girl not because you're afraid of being alone(or for the sake of being in a relationship), but because you really like her, personality etc, and you care about her. Now you 2 go to get some drinks on a Friday night, you have to go home early and fiind out that she was making out with some dude. No matter how melodramatic and cliche that sounds, that'd break my hart.

And the more the emotional investment, the more this type of shit hurts. I remember some guy writing about meeting some married couple in the bar, and husband had to leave early, so he ended up making out with her, and then she was writing him message inviting him home when husband is out to " finish the businness"...


@trixta If she leaves me for some guy because of his money then she is golddigger and I'd be happy of getting rid of her. If she fucks around after making thousand promises about commitment...that's shitty.

@hobbit Agreed. That's a shitty strategy for a successful relationship. If you don't have an emotional attachment-how can you really have a happy relationship? You can have fun time, but I don't think that's what we'd call that relationship a happy one.

How to invest emotionally without being needy is another topic, which is very important IMO.

So far, the only idea that come to my mind is making sure that the girl is as much emotionally invested in your relationship as you...now try doing that without turning into a emotional-investment-measure machine.

So how do you think a PUA can have a successful relationship?

What big hairy feet said.

Absolutely. The fact of the matter is that you have absolutely no control over what anyone else does, only yourself. If she cheats, you leave and find someone else. That's it. It sucks, but if a woman is going to cheat then she is going to cheat, and there is nothing you can do about it except leave.

PUA does give a lot of people the false illusion that they somehow control women, like the worlds greatest shoe salesman analogy you talked about. But that is flawed logic, because if a woman really really wanted a pair of shoes, any competent salesman could sell it to her. Same in PUA, we are pandering to a captive audience. Women want sex. Especially younger women, and especially women in bars and night clubs. It's an easy sell.

So could a PUA sarge your girlfriend into cheating on you? It all depends on her. If she wants to do it, she'll do it, she just needs the opportunity. But if she values your relationship and doesn't want to risk losing it, then she probably wont. But again, it depends on her and the only control you have is choice, so choose your mate wisely.

Ciaran doesn't make any sense, i read all of it. He rambles like some apocalyptic prophet. He also makes the assumption that everyone is going to be as good as him. His ramblings seem way more deep rooted than something PUA did to him. Or he turned christian or something as he talks about sins and judgement.

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Just a couple of thoughts:

1. What's more important to you guys?

a. Appearing/not appearing needy/clingy to others?
b. The end results of appearing/not appearing needy/clingy to others?
c. Actually feeling/not feeling needy/clingy to others.

There's nothing wrong with wanting to be perceived a certain way. . . but we probably do a bit too much of it. There's nothing wrong with pretending we do not care about the way others perceive us . . . but we probably do a bit too much of this as well.

2. For some people, "new", is simply better. And you could say that people are different from automobiles or handbags but the habitual need for 'new' is what drives our economy and what drives people to trade-in significant others. I'm not in position to say whether this is good or bad. Every culture, school of psychology, religion, etc . . . seems to have an explanation and an opinion on this human habit. All you need to know is that it exists. . . and if interested enough, research and pick an 'explanation' that sits well in your stomach.

3. You can never change a person. The saying is that old couples complain and argue over their partners' traits that was attractive to them in the first place. Meaning . . . a girl marries a quiet, reserved guy because she believes this is the type of guy that makes a good husband/father and then complains later that he never takes her out and reads books all day long. On the other hand, a girl marries a "fun" guy and complains later on that all he wants to do is have fun.

4. ^We ALWAYS know what we're getting into. You date a 'cheating girl' because it turns you on. Then she cheats and you do the "beat the chest monkey act" and she gets off and you get off. If you don't want a girl to cheat on you . . . just don't date a girl that cheats. If you want a girl who sucks plenty of cock, then just date a girl that sucks plenty of cock. It's truly as simple as that.

seen this kind of post many times.The truth is that PU is made of psychology,what you get from this website is information.knowledge is like technology.Nuclear technology is not evil,even if so many died at the end of WW2.It's just information,people are good or evil