So you may have already read my current kiss close routine roaming around. Kasabi read it and broke it down to the atom, critiquing it. I was like, "Thanks playa! I know you get mad pussy. Good lookin' out." So now I have my better than ever kiss close routine, thanks to K-Sab's critique. I'll personally be using this mostly for my night street game.

Side Note: There will be no grenades tonight. We're only dealing with 7's and up.

Open/Neg
Me: *Sets eyes on target, and now sets eyes to "target lock mode". While "target lock mode" is enabled, my eyes will be squinted while the rest of my face will be giving her a "You look familar" look. Point at her if she doesn't notice you and is about to walk by*

Her: *Mimicks your facial expression* or *smiles*. She might even verbally open me with a "Hey? What?" etc. But she's verbally opening first, and I like that.

Me: *Raises my left hand in front of me, palm up. (Palm should be opened) I take my right index finger and put it in the middle of my palm, and do a few circles, then point back at her. Note: I still have my curious facial expression.

Her: *At this stage, she should be curious, thinking "wtf is this guy saying?" She'll probably rsepond a polite way of what she's thinking.*

Me: *Now I can verbally open her*

Me: "Have you ever had your palm read before?"

Her: "Yes/No"

Me: "Well come here. I'll show you how it's done properly."

Her: *Gives left/right hand to me*

Me: *Looks at her hand* "This won't work. Give me your other hand"

Her: *Thinks this palm read is more legit, and gives other hand*

Me: "Wow, this is fascinating..."

Her: "What do you see?"

Me: "I see that..." *I open her had widely as if I'm really trying to read something then say:* "You have very manly hands. "

Her: *Jaw drops with a smile*



DHV/Palm read
Me: "Haha. Alright I have to be serious now. Don't make me laugh, ok."

Her: "Ha ok. Can I suck your cock?" *Minus the suck your cock part. I'm just seeing if you're paying attention*

Me: *Takes hand and flips it over. Looks at how she dresses to get some info. Then look back at the top of her hand. If her nails are long and painted, then say:* "I see that you are someone who likes to takes care of herself, thats good. *If her nails are short and not painted, then say:* "I see that you are a very down to earth person, that's good." *If her nails are short, but painted, then she's a mix of the 2 extremes. Say this:* "I see that you like to take care of yourself, and at the same time, you are a very down to earth person. You have a good balance of the 2. Nice."

Her: "Yeah I am like X. Blablabla"

Me: "Blablabla" *Small talk with her back, while holding her hand, then continue*

Me: *Looks at her love line. If it is closer to the middle of her hand, then say:* "You actually like to have a lot of close people around you and that's what makes you happy. I like that in a woman" *If her love line is more left, then say:* "Nice... You're a very independent woman. So far you're 2 for 2. " *I like that in a woman. So far you're 2 for 2. These statements make you the prize*

Her: *She'll likely respond to what you said*

Me: *Looks back inside her palm* "Aaaaand that's it. You owe me 5 bucks." *serious face*

Her: *Going to say some BS so she doesn't have to pay.* "No but I don't have $5 dollars. I'm broke"

Me: "Alright then, you owe me." *Turns head and points to cheek.

Her: *Leans in to kiss you on the cheek*

Me: *Pulls away at the last second, and says:* "A favor... you owe me a favor "



Get her to chase you
Me: "Oh and by the way, I'm SilentKiller" *Sticks out hand*

Her: "I'm ashley" *Shakes hand*

Me: "Ashley? Are you serious!?.. My HS sweethart's name was Ashley, but I didn't want to hook up with her because she was notorious at our HS for all the wrong things. Ugh, I can't even talk to you now" *Stops the hand shaking, and looks away. This should be delivered in a flirty way, so she knows you're not really upset, and she'll respond in a flirty way* (I don't like using "my ex" here, because when someone mentions there ex, it's generally because there still not over them, according to a study)

Her: "Nonono, I'm like x y and z"

Me: "Hmm ok then. I GUESS I can hang out with you" *(exaggerate the "guess") Puts arm around her shoulder, and start walking in some direction*




Flirt
Note: We are walking in some direction where I have my arm around her shoulder.

Me: "So Ashley. Tell me 3 interesting things about yourself. *Say this enthusiastically*

Her: "Mmm well I like to do x--"

Me: *Cuts her off* "Mhmm mhmm..." *While sarcastically nodding head*

Her: "And I like to do y--"

Me: *Cuts her off* "Mhmm mhmm mhmm. One more... *Again, deliver it like you're exaggerating*

Her: "Annnd... I'm good at--"

Me: *Cuts her off before she can say her 3rd interesting trait* "WOW!! That's amazing!"

Her: *She'll laugh and hide her face on your shoulder to hide from embarassment* (If she just laughs and doesn't hide her face, lead her face into your shoulder with your free hand. Then rest your face on her head and just giggle it off)

Note: *If her head is resting on your shoulder, and your head is resting on her head, then you know you can go in for the kiss. Just make it smooth, cause you're a PUA *



Kino Shift
Me: "Back when I lived in the Antarctic regions, I had to imitate a penguins or else I'd be eaten alive" *This is going to seem random as fuck. But just trust me*

Her: *Gives a look like "uhh wtf?"

Me: *Looks at her like she's retarded" "You've never had to act like a penguin before?"

Her: "Uhhh no" *Looking at me like wtf?!"

Me: It's actually pretty easy, look...

*Move from walking on her side, to walking in front her backwards. Grab her hands and lock fingers. Now take your feet and match them with the outside of her feet, then continue to walk backwards. (Your feet should be touching the whole time while walking) If done correctly, you should be walking backwards, she should be walking forward... and you two should be wobbling side to side like a penguin.

Me: "Whatever you do, don't let me hit something... alright"

Her: *Responds to you in a flirty way*



Kiss
Me: "God... I can't believe I'm actually showing you the penguin... Wow SilentKiller, what is wrong with you?" *Look at the sky when talking to yourself*

Her: *Laughs*

Me: "I'm proud of you Ashely... you have really good balance"

Her: *Confused/funny look*

Me: *Pushes her away, while still holding her hands, and maintaing that penguin position. Then pull her back in*

Her: *Pushes you away, then pulls you back in*

Me: *Pushes her away again, but this time, I lean my head back as if she pushed me away too. Then I pull her back in, and I pull myself back in as well. As you're pulling her in, spread your hands outward because one, this will make you 2 physically close to each other if both of your arms are extended outward and your holding on to her hands. 2, this takes away the option of her giving you a push back. There is no way she should be able to push you back when her arms are extending/extended, unless if she looks like Ronnie Coleman*

Me/Her: *Now our arms are fully extend outward, our faces are very close. Slowly drop both of your hands to your sides, while holding hands, look at each others lips, and kiss.

Side Note: I'd keep the full blown make out for the sex room.




Alright, there you have it. I have yet to test it, but will ASAP! And for you junkies that are going to say, "You haven't even tested this shit. Get outta here". Choke on a aids infested razor blade, bitch. Kasabi once shared a quote with me, "Imagination is more important than knowledge".

Feel free to drop your feedback. Kasabi!! Let me know what you think brotha!

Aside of being a great routine, everyone reading this should realize the sexually/flirting/I'm having a great time tone of all the things you are saying.

You are talking about penguins YES penguins and you are having a lot of kino while doing it... This is what David Deangelo means when he said we should act like small kids in the playground.

Even if you don't like the routine you should at least learn and understand the principle of why the whole interaction works.

This routine answers a lot of questions about how to neg (just one small neg, nothing big but enough to set the right tone), how to be C&F, how to kino escalate and a lot of more things.


A really interesting post, not because of the routine itself but for the incredible structure and tone it posses.

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Nice post.

Much better than before. . . by the way, are you going out and trying this stuff out? Any how, here are my thoughts: (If I don't comment on something, consider it OK)
Good idea. . . creative. . .
Sales 101:

A good salesman asks his clients whether they want his products/services. An excellent salesman receives questions about his products/services because he's been demonstrating so much value, the clients solicit business from him.

So many different ways to do this but I'll offer one example. Instead of this:
At any time you have a clear look at her hand, high five, shake, holding a glass, etc . . .just look at her hand, look surprised and go, "Oh! . . . hmm. . ." - and that's it. If she goes, "What? What?" Then you say, "Oh, I've been reading up on palm reading. It's no big deal. Everything is OK . . ." - Play this tease game enough and she will shove her hand TO YOU.
Not bad but you're rushing it. If you read up on this topic a bit, you should be able to slow it down and enjoy the process. Trying to gain compliance and then offering her a negative whammy won't really help you. I thought you were going to study this a little bit? How long can it possibly take to read an e-manual on this topic? If you want to do it . . . do it, otherwise, abandon this gimmick and try something else.

Secondly, the difference between BS and reality is a good story. Really? Looking at her manly hands is fascinating to you? This is not a good story and thus it's BS.

Why not, "You have such feminine facial features but the utilitarian's hands . . . some would say, the 'man's hand'." - then if she pushes back a bit, "It simply means you get things done but through the feminine realm. . . through effective communications and tact as opposed to bullying others around." - But again, you should actually be able to cold read a little bit of this one way or another.

Cliche's, even if true, never make good stories. This entire paragraph is one blob of mashed corniness.
BullShitting 101:

Try framing your statements in the form of a question. If you get the 'read' correct, then you're a star. If she pushes back, you can segway to something else.

You: You're a very independent woman.
Her: Not really
You: ?

Or

You: Do you tend to be independent?
Her: Not really
You: How about hobbies? Do anything on your own?
Her: Not really
You: How odd. . . this line shows that you have tendencies to be independent.
Her: Well, when I'm alone, I day dream sometimes.
You: Ahh . . . that makes sense. . .

Silly "fortune tellers" do this all the time . . . so do a few silly pua's . . .
Sales 102:

You already offered your services for FREE and now you're demanding payment. How about instead offering her a promotion service? Just tell her something very simple that will convince her that you know something about this . . a little teaser that will entice her to say, "OK, how about love. What can you tell me about that?" or "How about money? Will I make some or what?"

That's when you say, "Well, I don't usually do these things at a bar. It's silly." - and you keep holding the read from her until she really forces her hand in your face . . then you bring up 'payment for service'.
You did a version of this in your initial post and it sucked. This one sucks as well. Here's why: You seem to have a need to demonstrate that you've interacted with girls at some level.(Had a girlfriend, have an ex-girlfriend, could have had sex with a girl, etc . . .) The problem is that LYING takes some skill and experience. Had you interacted with a hundred girls, lying about the 101st non-existing event would be easy.

You do not need ^this gig in your repertoire:

1. You do not need to prove you have experience with girls to get a girl.
2. Trying to prove it by lying about specific events will not help you at all.
3. Actually, a 'smooth game' alone will prove to her that you are good with girls, you have been good with girls, and you will always be good with girls. (Ask anybody in this forum with some experience how many times they get asked things like, "So how many girlfriends do you have?" . . . ) *And it's not because they keep talking about girls they've had . . .

This one is too dependent on her specific responses. . . And guys are the ones who are proud to show off, "I AM like this and that. . ." Girls usually chat about what they like and what they're into . . .
Do you work in college admissions? Seriously . . . I've seen this PUA cliche before but I wonder which crazy ass college admissions officer got the bright idea of ACTUALLY interviewing girls at bars/clubs. What's next? Who is your role model? Why do you want to matriculate to the Silent Killer Club?

So this is the kiss close. It's not bad . . . much better than the previous attempt.

This kind of stuff is fun. Just do it and talk less. You don't need to justify it. Just introduce the thing,(we needed to do it for survival) grab her and go for it.
^Yes, but Ms. Imagination alone suck your cock. Get out there and just start chatting away. You'll get better feedback from the field. Also, consider starting up a journal.

I haven't really read much of this thread but just from the start, something that really pissed me off is how idealistic you are with the girl's responses.

I hate it when guys write some routine and when they say the girl's part, it's ridiculously optimistic.

Most of the responses in your original post from the girl would be no way near as good as they were, forcing you to change the entire routine, which renders the routine useless. This is more true the less experienced you are at PU, or the more reliant you are on routines (they're not necessarily actually the same thing, but tend to be correlated).

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intresting ideea, but i don't really love rutines. I prefer do all on the way, to see how tings going on. The thing is never stop talking. If she stop, u say something, if u stop be sure she have what to say, if not change the conversation in other topic.
Nevertheless, this topic is grate. Ty for shearing.
I love how kasabi do his job, and his perception on PU. You're greate man. I mean it.

I was thinking the very same.

In fact, when 'creating a routine', the best way to do so is to come up with the initial idea for the routine, and then, before even BEGINNING to come up with responses from girls that are based upon nothing but your own logic - you go out and get those responses before you continue working on that routine.