Hi, this is my first post here. I have read a lot of good ideas here but have found nothing on this subject yet.

Summary of my story:
During college I learned to sharpen my methods fairly quickly despite an unsuccessful love life in high school. In-fact, in my circle of friends (which consisted mainly of my frat), I was the "go to guy" when it came to picking up girls because of my success. This went for everything from FCing to dating girls in a serious relationship. I know I was doing something right when some of my most hopeless friends achieved some success by following my advice. And no my advice was not "get the girl really drunk" haha.

My dilemma:
I am 23, graduated about a year and a half ago, and immediately started working in a job that requires constant travel (except for weekends which I spend at home). Every week I fly out Monday morning and return Thursday or Friday night. Usually I do not go to the same place for more than 4 to 6 weeks and it is spread over a long time. On weekends I only go out on Saturdays since I am dead beat on Fridays from late travel/work.

I have yet to find a way to be successful with women where I travel or where I live. I thought it would be easy to play the travel to my advantage as it could add an aspect of rarity and mystery to my image. But I notice that it creates more disinterest than anything.

Recently I have resorted to lying (which I don't like) to experiment how it would affect my success. Surprisingly, women are responding better to when I say I am a local professional. And even better when I say I am still a college student! Even to women who are out of college!! In-fact, I NCed a HB 7-8 in her thirties by using the whole "I'm a senior in college" approach. This COMPLETELY goes against my post-college life expectations.

Why can't I be a young professional AND get women????

Any and all advice is welcome at this point.

Thanks for reading,
Don

You're too unavailable. The very notion of a relationship possibility is what she uses in her mind to tell herself she's not a slut. The fact that you're jet-setting about all of the time tells her for sure that you're not available for anything other than hooking up.

It's like the cat-string story, only the piece of string is in a box, up on a shelf. It sounds to me like you've got a George Cloony, Up in the Air situation.

Welcome to adulthood. You are now an adult professional. Your frat-rat party days of banging drunken college chicks are pretty much over. (in a little while you will be saying, "THANK GOD!")

I am in my 40s and the dating world does change when you get out of school and into the real world. You aren't living in a pool of single party chicks 24/7 anymore. And you are going to be around more and more responsible professional women that also have adult responsibilities and aren't party girls anymore either.

You are going to be around more and more mature adult women that have been gamed and hustled for years and know better and aren't going to fall for wink and smile and cheesy pickup line. You are going to have to be real.

Sure there are always going to be cougars that will pounce on a boytoy for a night and if you want to use a college boy custome to do it fine, but dont think for a moment you fooled anyone with that line.

Yes you can lie and manipulate and decieve. That will generate animosity and bitterness and the world is small and people do talk. You will make a bed that you won't be able to sleep in if you keep doing that.

There are absolutely women looking for a young single professional. In fact the best years of your dating life are coming up soon. You are just in a transition period where you are no longer having the access to "girls" who like partying with "boys" that you are used to.

You are going to be entering a period in your life where you will be encountering "women" who are interested in "men."

It's a different game now because the stakes are getting higher and the women are getting smarter and getting more in touch with what they want and knowing what they deserve in life.

The game is not better or worse now than what it was, it is just different. Your entire lifestyle has changed and so your game is going to have to change with it.

Do what I did: Move to a college town.

I'm 29 and I got it GOOD man.

That travelling is gonna fuck you in the long run. My friend travels and he has almost no time or energy to maintain any "normal" social life/dating life. He doesn't have a g/f, isn't married, etc. Get out while you still can. There are MANY ways to make money that don't involve being away from home all the time.

A recent career change really changed my life, in terms of free time. And I'm making the exact same amount of money for less work!

Whatta deal!

Thanks for the positive advice. I can definitely see what you mean. But what changes do I have to make? How do I channel my efforts in a different direction?

Can you provide personal examples of how to "grow up" my game?

This would certainly be a solution but I feel like it is going around the issue rather than dealing with it. I think this would work for a while but how long can this go on before you become "the old guy who won't move on"?

Any tips out there on how to "grow up" your game from college to post-college life?