Hi guys,

~ 1 year ago I've meet a girl in a club, it was already ~ 4 am in the morning, and she was totally wasted, so we talked and flirted a bit around and then I n-closed her and brought her to her sister afterwards so she could get her home.

Well, a few days later I tried to contact her again, and she obviously flaked, I already expected that.
But I kept her number in my phone, since every now and then (~ once every 2 months) I'm sending bulk-messages to these "flake" chicks in my phone, to check if some are replying.

Now 2 weeks ago I've sent another bulk-message to ~ 15 flaking girls, and finally after 1 year she decided that it would be a good idea to message back (maybe it took her 12 months to get sober...).

We messaged a bit forward and backward, and I tried to play it funny and to DHV, to build a bit attraction to a least get some reasonable phone game going before I'm asking her for a date.

But unfortunately that tactic failed, we've just exchanged 4-5 messages, spread over 3 days, and now she's flaking again, or only replying veeeery slowly.

So basically I don't really care, as I'm dating a few girls already and I'm "almost" happy with that, but I see her as an opportunity to test out a few things, I'd like to develop a routine to be able to turnaround girls like her, as I have quite a lot of them in my phone

So I'd like to hear your ideas, what would you do, except from deleting her number

Why do you think they're even worth your time? If any of these flakes reply, especially after that much time has passed, it's obvious they're looking for attention, etc. You can't rekindle interest if they never had any to contact you the first time. You mentioned she was wasted when you guys met. It's quite possible her judgment was off and when she sobered up, she changed her mind about you. Trust me, she didn't spend a year sobering up and bettering herself so she could improve her chances with some guy she met once.

Bothering with a flaking girl is sort of like coldcalling from a list of people who have never bought anything. Not a bad idea to shoot a mail to 15 of them but don't put too much energy in any one woman. That's good advice regardless but when you are talking about flakers it makes even more sense.

I sort of feel like you are setting yourself up for failure here.

Well, in the past I've always played it like a numbers game, I simply approached many women, on and offline, and never cared about the many flakes I came across.

During the last months I realized that I'm able to reduce my percentage of flakes by tightening my game, especially by adding more DHV and of course COMFORT before any n-close.

But out of curiosity I somehow don't believe that "just dump her", "just give up" is the final solution to handle flakes. That's what I always did in the past, but is that really the only option we have?

It's not just dumping them, it's acknowledging that your time is better spent on either non-flakes or those who are in an undetermined state of flake/nonflake.

If he has 15 flakes on his phone, is he better off pursuing those flakes, or continuing to sarge women in an undefined state?

Those dogs won't hunt. They are proven not to hunt. You can either invest lots of effort in a pack of dogs you know haven't hunted in the past, or you can spend the bulk of your effort on new dogs.

Best bet with these women is to treat them as a bulk pool as much as possible, thereby multiplying however much effort you are expending by 15. But my guess is you will never get any play from any of them and you are better off forgetting all of them.

the last ditch option is to send something like

"BUKKAKE BIATCH"
or

" i wanna fuck you like an animal"

just somethign crazy off the wall shit to get her attention.

but mostly, your mistake was # closing.

you dont # close drunk 4am girls, you take them home and FUCK them. and nevr speak to them again.

this thread is full of win

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The best way to handle flaky chicks is to be sexually aggressive. It doesn't work with texting because words don't even come close to creating as much sexual tension as you two having facetime. If you text however, drop the DHV, drop everything man. Just say this:

"I'm too horny for you. I want to fuck you badly but it's becoming a real problem, I'm always getting hard so there's no reason to keep this number anymore. Take care."

Seriously, I was thinking about trying some crazy shit already.

And YES, I'd normally agree to take them home, but for some reason I don't remember anymore that wasn't an option that night, and I don't really into fucking drunken girls.

I actually don't think that it's a waste of time to try different things on these girls, I see it as an opportunity for testing. I recently tried different things out with my "phone-game", and due to that another girl that flakes a long time ago (must be easily 6 months) messages me back.
So I'm seeing a progress there, I'm actually just not able to build enough attraction and comfort with them to ask for a date....

Everybody hates flakes.. I feel like they're flakes because people give them too much attention. So for me, if I've contacted them a few times with them being flakes, I say fuck it ignore the whole situation.

I would say about 50% of the time, they come texting or calling me back because they haven't heard from me for a while etc.

To other 50%, I say fuck em. Gotta take the chance on losing a girl. Like a replier said before, what makes them so fucking special that they deserve your time. Make them get put on your time, and if that's not workin out.. screw it, there's other HB's out there in the world.

Its not the only option, but the majority of the time it is the best option. You "telemarketing" this girls is for the most part a waste of time. Because your success rate is going to be like 1% at best. Girls primary flake because their interest isn't high enough in you. Why waste your time and energy on a girl that wasn't that interest in you the first time? You mention the numbers game, well the amount of time you spend on flakes you can easily get more numbers.

are there any older posts or threads out there on subject of flakes--im just curious about the psycology of a serial flaker---as in---are they capable of enjoying themselves,can they actually enjoy themselves, is flaking their equivalent of actual sex,do they live to flake---like do they go out specifically to say ''no''--or go out to suddenly jump into a taxi and go home, do they just collect phone numbers--do they flake with every single guy that ever approaches them--or just most or some--

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what dr. house brings to medicine, i bring to everyday life (an extreme dose of cynicism), don't listen to the curmudgeon!

They could be in relationships. You had those numbers sitting in there for quite a long time.