Why are we the ones that get called stupid/lame/weird etc. by girls? We never really judge girls and put them down other than calling them a "slut/fat/ugly". I personally never really judge a girl and tell her she's lame or weird and so on. However, my ex gf would say that to me and even call me "retarded" (not that I'm actually retarded, it's just that I don't get why they use that word usage towards us. We never call them retarded). So I don't understand why us guys are the ones always getting insulted. I've been told different things by girls:

-Get online you nerd (I just can't see a guy saying that to a girl)
-You google everything you freak (she needed to know what a certain disease was and I told her I was gonna google it real quick)
-Why are you on yahoo answers you no lifer (I told her of something I found out on yahoo answers)

And then I've also been told, "Posing is your thing. Why can't you just stop your swag." (can't really say that to a girl either)
-You ass (No guy would ever call a girl an "ass")
-Your lame, I wouldn't show you to my friends (again, one of those things a guy would never say to a girl)

So why do girls talk like this to guys? I never see any guys talking to girls like this and neither do I so I'm wondering because I've been starting to take it sort of personal; I keep asking myself, "What is the reason she would insult me like this? What am I doing wrong?" Oh and the slapping too. I'm not saying we should slap them back, no way. But is it really necessary for them to slap us? I just feel like when all of these things happen, it's like we're doing worse with the girl instead of making her laugh, getting a good reaction and so we get on their bad side and then we think that her view on us is bad and we feel screwed.

If you aren't doing these things to girls, then you aren't really following the rules of a PUA. Remember when you were a little kid and you saw a girl you liked? Would you tell her that you liked her, or would you run up to her and pull her hair, or slap her on the arm, or tease her in some way? At some point in age, guys get away from the whole "being mean = I like you" mentality.

I'm not saying that you actually go up and smack a girl that you like or call her names. It's more subtle but mentally puts her in that same mind frame as when she was a little girl. It's called NEGS, and it sounds like you need to put it to good use.

All in all, if you're getting this crap from a girl that you're in a relationship with, DROP HER and don't look back. She obviously has no respect for you, and there is no sense in trying to make a relationship work when there is no respect for one another.

Well, I would say it is two fold...

1) Cause guys are AFC's....if the guy is a PUA, over half of those comments SHOULD be said to a girl in a joking way. If they are saying it seriously, then you are just around Lame girls...I have never been called these things by a girl in all seriousness...they have said "freak, lame" in a joking way...they are negging, it is good and SHOULD be a part of your interactions...it's like middle schoolers on the playground pushing each other over and punching each other...animals do it too...

2) I was in Hollywood this past weekend and watched this guy not only hit this girl when she swung at him, but after he laid her out on the ground, he got on top like the UFC mount position and wailed on her....disturbing yes, but if another guy came over and hit a guy in the face and he did that, we would all say, "well, he shouldn't have hit him and started it..." So why should a girl get away with that? Because inherently, men think they are weaker, which is actually very misogynistic! So men approach women like they are victims from the get go, like they are innocent somehow...and therefore, most men won't say something like above to women in fear...it would be like someone walking up to a person in a wheelchair and saying something about running.lol Are they victims, should we treat them like such? hmmmmmmmm That is actually more brutal, I think...

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To be honest, I've found major failures with negs very long ago. I would say, "Nice hair, extensions?" To a hot girl for example. She would say, "Ummm no. Whatever." Other girls would say, "Shut the fuck up." or, "You don't even know me." because I would say, "Oh so you're one of those girls.." The problem is that when you neg a girl, it makes you come across as childish whereas when I look at the guys who are manly, stern, etc...they never neg girls. They're just chill and straightforward with them, they don't create drama.

Well, I have never had that reaction from girls. I think most of it has to do with how you deliver the neg. I haven't ever seen you in set using them so I have nothing to comment on...I do know, socially AND psychologically, negs make perfect logical sense and is supported by human and animal behavior...in my opinion.

It's hard for me to see a girl react to "sooo, you are one of those" by "whatever, you don't know me," if she doesn't even know what you are going to say about her...?? It is a line designed to hook her to say, "what's that mean" or "how?" Her reaction would tell me you delivered AFTER she knew what you were going to "box" her in as, or you said it in a straight, non funny mode...


Different strokes for different folks...if you say it doesn't work for you, then do you. But, I would also say, have someone wing with you while you deliver the negs just to make sure you are delivering them correctly and calibrating correctly...

good providence....

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I guess.. I've never really had a problem with NEGS when used in the right context. For instance, your line of "Nice hair, extensions?" Did she have really long hair? Did you have any type of rapport built up or did you just walk up to some pretty girl and blurt that line? I think it's about the delivery also.

Most times when I neg, it's not even something I think about and the girl usually ends up negging herself as part of it. I love a girl who keeps her nails looking nice all the time. So at some point I will take her hand and actually look at her nails. If they're done, they'll let you look. Regardless if I like them or not, I'll look down at her feet. Most times the girl hasn't even bothered with them because she doesn't think people will notice. At this point she'll say, something like "No don't look. I haven't had them done yet. I have an appointment tomorrow" Yeah right! She just negged herself and all I did was look at her feet. I didn't even have to say anything.

If they aren't done, they'll shy away and say "No I need to get them done". I won't even bother looking at her toes, because if her hands aren't done then her feet definitely aren't done. Either way, she has just negged herself. I then politely insist on looking at them, and regardless of what they look like, I say, "They aren't that bad." Was what I just said a compliment or an insult?

If both her hands and feet are done, do they match each other? If they match each other, does it match what she's wearing? If yes, does her shoes match her clothes? If yes, are the shoes worn? My point is, you can find something to neg on, without actually having to neg her. If you can get her to neg herself, then she just lowered her value without you having to say a word, and at this point, she should try to qualify herself to you.

It's all in the delivery.

*edit* This doesn't happen until I feel she may be attracted.

What the fuck? I never had recess in middle school! I feel jipped.....

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I really thought you were trolling here, but the rest of the post makes you sound so sincere. I have two questions:

1. is it one girl calling you nerd, freak and no lifer, or are these different girl who all happen to remark on your 'nerd-ness'?

2. How often, and why, do you get slapped, since you feel that is a big issue?

Where I am from, there is nothing unusual about calling a girl stupid, lame or weird, so I don't recognize myself in your post at all.

Also, calling a girl "slut/fat/ugly"(and lets not forget the frequently used "bitch") is a HUGE insult, So I don't understand how you can mention that in the OP, while still concluding that only your gender gets insulted.

It doesn't happen out of the blue. It tends to happen with girls I playfully banter with a lot or one of those girls you always have "mind wars" with. It's as if you two never respect each other because you two are too comfortable with each other. You don't have that mindset of, "I just met this person, be polite." Damn, now that I think about it, you gotta give respect to get respect. The girls I mess around with without truly arguing/fighting with, always treat me with less respect.

the difference is it is socially accepted and socially encouraged to "male bash" in western cultures.

there are a whole host of factors that play into it.

one - the media, which pushes feminization of males.

two - the (angry) feminist movement, which pushes feminization of males

three - backwards laws that have gone from promoting chivalry to allowing abuse against men. (women can hit us, punch us, kick us, steal from us, kill our babies without our consent, make us pay them for life, trick us into getting them pregnant)

four - a society where there is no goal from being masculine. we've got government to hold our hands through everything. a woman can basically support herself through everything in life without a man. from the sperm donor office, to the welfare office, to the college financial aid office, to the affirmative action job, to the welfare office again, to the ACLU if she feels persecuted, all the way to the grave.

we live in a very anti-male culture.

it frustrates women, because instinctively they want masculine men, but all the forces around us are conspiring to make us feminine.

why do you think more and more women attack and insult men and run off and lick pussy? because somebody's gotta be the man, right?

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Yeah, bro, you were...just make up for the loss now and run up and hit a girl in the arm as your opener...when she get's mad, you have a great set ready to go!lol

I teach Middle School for work and I watch it happen in the halls EVERYDAY!

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