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PostPosted: Mon Apr 11, 2011 4:26 pm 
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Lately I've been reading up on the forums again, in the general questions section and the PUA lounge section, finding myself troubled with the same reoccuring topics about
"I feel this", "what if she doesn't like", "how should I respond to her not texting me", "jees I feel really stupid right now", "I got AA", ...

You recognise yourself in this young pupils, and here I stress the word pupils.
Why does the douchebag LyricalDream calls us students?
Answer: Why does one need to learn howto walk before he can run?

I'm troubled with the amazing stupidity that's largely growing and even more the lack of self-knowledge. Guys, where is your selfrespect, since when do you actually care if one person doesn't respond to you?

Pupils; - Let's do a little math exercise shall we?
7.1 Billion people in the world - you are one single one of them.. this means that there are more then 7.999.999.999. people still wandering around.. and one of them doesn't like you? Djees - you do the math yourself!

About math - Pick Up is merely a variation of celf-centerment. This means that it can be used to measure not how good you are with women but how good you are with yourself. The simple hard truth is - if you are not pleased with yourself, how will you succeed in what you value? Simple - you will not.

Criticism is here spurged people, I like you all.. hell, I love you all - you're looking to do something with your lives. But don't follow one cat with a white tail and a black body, just because he's different.

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I think many people who ask those sort of questions already know the answer, they just want reassurance from some of the more experienced guys on here - it's stupid, but I used to do it when i first started out.

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I think many people who ask those sort of questions already know the answer, they just want reassurance from some of the more experienced guys on here - it's stupid, but I used to do it when i first started out.
Why does one need reassurence for the thing they already know? It's not reassurence they ask.. it's approval. But then ask yourself - who are we to be giving them approval?

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They don't have confidence in their actions and look for more experienced guys in pick up to answer their stupid questions. Even though if they actually think about it, they already know the answer. I think they also seek approval, because they are simply inexperienced.

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They don't have confidence in their actions and look for more experienced guys in pick up to answer their stupid questions. Even though if they actually think about it, they already know the answer. I think they also seek approval, because they are simply inexperienced.
Inexperienced is maybe a word to put it, but I like ignorance better.

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Besides, confidence is the cornerstone of what you are..
Why lack it?

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Confidence or lack of, is why most people have resorted to pick up, if you have confidence, generally speaking, you don't need to get caught up in all the bullshit routines and techniques many obssess over, it is all you need to get girls.

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It is easy to say 'why lack confidence?' but for many it is a big deal and hard to build up their confidence within themselves and with women.

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It is easy to say 'why lack confidence?' but for many it is a big deal and hard to build up their confidence within themselves and with women.
They don't need to build it up, they already have it. Finding it is key. Why do you think so many disney fairy tales are about the treasure? or the beautiful girl? Confidence.

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It is easy to say 'why lack confidence?' but for many it is a big deal and hard to build up their confidence within themselves and with women.
They don't need to build it up, they already have it. Finding it is key. Why do you think so many disney fairy tales are about the treasure? or the beautiful girl? Confidence.

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Debating whether people lack confidence or they don't lack it and isntead just need to find it is like saying I already have the skills to be a Grandmaster chess player, but just need to find them.

Whether I don't have them or I just need to find them doesn't matter. I am still not a Grandmaster chess player.


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Debating whether people lack confidence or they don't lack it and isntead just need to find it is like saying I already have the skills to be a Grandmaster chess player, but just need to find them.

Whether I don't have them or I just need to find them doesn't matter. I am still not a Grandmaster chess player.
Howto tell - I can say I'm not a Grandmaster chess player but clearly am if I can show results. What is the difference between opinion & proven statements and how does it affect the true outcome?

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Debating whether people lack confidence or they don't lack it and isntead just need to find it is like saying I already have the skills to be a Grandmaster chess player, but just need to find them.

Whether I don't have them or I just need to find them doesn't matter. I am still not a Grandmaster chess player.
Howto tell - I can say I'm not a Grandmaster chess player but clearly am if I can show results. What is the difference between opinion & proven statements and how does it affect the true outcome?

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How to tell what? The difference between opinion and a proven statement is that one has evidence the other one does not. What outcome are you talking about? I have no idea what you mean.

My analogy was that no matter what spin you put on someone not having confidence - they still don't have confidence, making the debate pointless.


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I strongly believe this forum wasn't made for the benefit of "Gurus" like yourself Lyrical.

More than 2 Years ago I was as fucking desperate to have some control over my life like most new guys here every day and all I could hold on to was the PUA community and everything grew from there. Not everyone knows how to do a forum search or what the differences between Mystery and David Wygant are, so things are not "that obvious" for most people in this community, you are a minority.

You are supposing we should answer people's benevolent ignorance with "duh", "be more confident", "that girl isnt special", "There are 7 billion more people" at least thats what it sounds to me. Im personally happy to have kept my sense of "onitis" for women even after over 2 years of "pickup". It helps me keep up awesome healthy relationships with great women for as long as we want because I'll tell you I rather fuck a sexy, fun and intelligent HB9 every day of the week, than mostly 6's-7's, 2 or 3 times a week.

In the end I fail to see the point of your little tantrum, why don't we all try to point people in the right direction instead of actively exploiting their flaws?

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I strongly believe this forum wasn't made for the benefit of "Gurus" like yourself Lyrical.
I would hardly call myself a soproclaimed "Guru." To be honest, I actually hate people that take that role, it's more ignorance then bless.
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More than 2 Years ago I was as fucking desperate to have some control over my life like most new guys here every day and all I could hold on to was the PUA community and everything grew from there. Not everyone knows how to do a forum search or what the differences between Mystery and David Wygant are, so things are not "that obvious" for most people in this community, you are a minority.
Do not get me wrong, I started out the same way. But still I didn't lose faith in what my capabilities are. What I am reading most of the times is the lack of faith in themselves. People don't realise their strengths, therefor they aren't succesful. I was talking to a girl last night she had some problems aswell, and her confidence went completely to zero. So I asked if she could smile, she could cook, she could clean.. all the above were things she could do.. now what does that say?
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You are supposing we should answer people's benevolent ignorance with "duh", "be more confident", "that girl isnt special", "There are 7 billion more people" at least thats what it sounds to me.
I'm not supposing we should answer their questions in such a matter. If we do - we lose contact with reality. What I do propose if offer a way to think things through...
Remember, almost everything taught in PUA product is based on human psychology & social interactions.. why not provide food for tought instead of routines & techniques?
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Im personally happy to have kept my sense of "onitis" for women even after over 2 years of "pickup". It helps me keep up awesome healthy relationships with great women for as long as we want because I'll tell you I rather fuck a sexy, fun and intelligent HB9 every day of the week, than mostly 6's-7's, 2 or 3 times a week.
It not that that I am referring too. I also still have my "one-itis" to thank for my correct dealing with women and not losing respect towards them. However - what I am saying is that you don't need to focus on the HB9.. oh hell, stop even referring to that term.. it's horrible referring to a girl like that. Would you like to be described as a 4 or a 9?
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In the end I fail to see the point of your little tantrum, why don't we all try to point people in the right direction instead of actively exploiting their flaws?
I'm not exploiting their flaws - I'm merely bringing them up for a debate of it. Reread the original topic Byzantine.

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